Part 4: Joseph Prince went for deliverance, isn’t saved, went against Jesus & the Christian Church on the Ten Commandments, he’s into the Occult & Witchcraft – By Rev George Ong (Dated 18 March 2024)
Announcement No 1:
Joseph Prince has replied to me
by sharing that he was sent for deliverance ministry,
in his latest sermon yesterday.
But he’s not that clever at all
as he has unwittingly let out another secret
that he is an unbeliever.
Announcement No 2:
There is 1 video each
on Steve Lawson, Michael Brown and George Ong
and 2 videos on Joseph Prince.
Please see the Appendix for the links
to the 4 previous and related articles
that you may have missed them.
Featured YouTube comments:
@12345okok
“Rev George Ong cites recognised authorities.
He shows that he is open to receive from people
who have knowledge and understanding.
This is what the Book of Proverbs promotes and approves.
If someone claims that his revelations come from God directly
then we ought to be extremely wary.
99% of the time that would be falsehoods.
To claim that he got it right and correct each time
is insanity no doubt.”
@mayyoon301
“Thank you, Rev George Ong, for exposing this heretic.
My sister in Kuala Lumpur
has been watching his sermon videos for some years now.
Unfortunately, she still believes in his lies.
I never have any interest in his sermons ever,
not once, thank God.
I reside in Melbourne, Australia
and am a reformed, born-again Christian.
For many years, I was a professed Christian,
charismatic and into Prosperity Faith.
I thanked the Lord for regenerating my heart,
and now I read the Bible and study the word faithfully,
and attend a church that has sound expository teaching
on the word of God.
What kind of sermon is he talking?
Joseph Prince is like a stand-up comedian,
a clown or a joker?
I would not want to waste any time listening to him.
I would get up and leave that place (church?) immediately!
I earnestly pray that God will open the eyes of those believers.”
Excerpt No 1 from the Article:
In ‘The New Testament, Spurgeon’s Sermons By Each Book.’
Charles Spurgeon said:
“A third reason I will give
why the Law must be perpetual
is that to suppose it altered
is most dangerous.
To take away from the Law its perpetuity
is, first of all, to take away
from it its power to convict of sin.
Is it so, that I, being an imperfect creature,
am not expected to keep a perfect Law?
Then it follows that I do not sin
when I break the Law!
… By removing the Law
you have done away with sin,
for sin is the transgression of the Law!
And where there is no Law,
there is no transgression!
When you have done away with sin,
you may as well have done away
with the Savior and with salvation
– for they are by no means necessary!”
George Ong’s comments:
Charles Spurgeon said if one does away with the law,
one is doing away with sin, the Saviour and salvation.
Horrifyingly, that is what Joseph Prince is doing,
as by doing away with the law,
Prince is doing away with salvation.
How can one who does away with salvation
not be a heretic?
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
Excerpt No 2 from the Article:
In ‘Walking with God, Life in Christ, Volume 2, Studies in 1 John,’
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:
“… The test whereby we know we are His is this:
are you keeping His commandments?
… You cannot walk with God
without keeping His commandments.”
George Ong’s comments:
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said
the test of whether we belong to God
is whether we are obeying God’s commandments.
He added that if we don’t keep God’s commandments,
we cannot claim to be walking with Him.
This only indicates that Joseph Prince
who teaches that there is no law to obey
because it has become obsolete
is not only not walking with God,
but he does not belong to Him.
Excerpt No 3 from the Article:
Here, we are not talking
about Joseph Prince speaking against Jesus and God’s word
for only once or twice,
but ‘countless’ of times.
Here, we are not talking about Joseph Prince,
influencing only 1 or 2 countries,
but plenty of countries.
Here, we are not talking about Joseph Prince
deceiving only one or two thousand people,
but millions of people.
And despite Joseph Prince,
who preaches against Jesus openly and publicly,
plenty of times,
he is still able to retain support from the millions.
Why?
It takes nothing less than
the occultic powers and practice of witchcraft
that the devil has empowered him with
to pull this off.
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
This is the Fourth Part of a series of articles
to show that Joseph Prince, as a heretic,
is also into the occult and witchcraft.
But the interesting part in Part 4
is that he has unwittingly revealed
that he is an unbeliever.
In a Sunday sermon aired on YouTube,
17 Mar 2024, yesterday, Joseph Prince said;
“Many years ago, when I spoke in tongues
in that previous church I came from,
they brought me for deliverance.
They brought me to a church
that is not charismatic church,
but the Pastor there exercises deliverance ministry,
and he has an authentic deliverance ministry.
But they don’t believe in speaking in tongues and all that.
So, they asked me, “Speak in tongues.”
So, I spoke in tongues.
And the Pastor says, “Come out you, devil.”
And the more he said that, the more I pray in tongues.
And then, after that, he says, I never heard this before,
he says,
“I summon Michael, the Archangel down
and to bind this evil spirit,
come out from this young man in the name of Jesus.”
Still praying in tongues.
So, he had his Associate Pastors around him.
He meant well, okay.
So, after that, he was very tired.
I was still speaking in tongues.
Have you heard people saying
those who speak in tongues is of the devil?
He’s one of those that believe that.
So, my Pastor brought, my church leader
brought me there to him,
actually, because he’s an expert in exorcism.
So, after that, he took a break.
He was tired. He took a break.
Then one of the associates, look around, look around.
It was his associate.
“Just now, when you pray in tongues,
you said the word Shekinah, right?”
I said,
“I don’t know what I said.”
“You said the word, Shekinah.
Just let you know the word Shekinah means God’s glory.”
Then he ran off.
So, I believe he’s a secret tongue talker.
But this was the clincher.
Right at the end, he came back with my leader,
from my church and he says this.
“You know, the thing is this,
we have concluded that you are not;
you are not saved.
You’re not saved.
You need to be saved.”
I said, “Why am I not saved?”
He said,
“Because have you,
have you kept the Ten Commandments,”
he told me this. I’ll never forget it.
“Have you kept Ten Commandments?”
And he showed me the Ten Commandments.
“Have you done this?”
“Ya.”
“Have you done this?”
“Ya.”
“Have you done this?
I think, your mind also.”
“Yes.”
“Okay, have you ever done this in your mind also?”
“Yes, yes, yes, yes.”
“You see you broke all ten.
How can you be saved?”
He told me that!
The next day in my own church,
I went to my leader who brought me
and I said I want to talk to you.
I was a young boy then in my early teens.
And I said to him,
“You know what he said about me not being saved.
I know I’m saved.
I can’t explain to you but something inside me;
I don’t know the witness and all that.
Something inside me tells me I’m saved.”
Joseph Prince would want to give the impression
that since that Pastor (let’s call him Pastor A)
didn’t cast the spirit out of him,
which he claimed,
that would mean that he doesn’t possess
the spirit of witchcraft and the occult.
That is his reply to me.
Don’t let him pull a fast one on you.
If you remember in 3 previous Articles:
Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3,
I have given concrete proofs
that it is precisely because of the presence
of such a spirit witchcraft and the occult
that is empowered by the devil
that had emboldened him with the spiritual dare
to twist the words of Jesus and teach against Christ
who is God Himself,
not just once or twice but many times.
In Part 4, this Article,
I will prove again that he went against
not just the teaching of Jesus,
but also the Historic Church
on his doctrine of the law, the Ten Commandments.
What Pastor A had discovered and discerned
is a worse form of spirit that resides in Joseph Prince.
It is the spirit of an unbeliever under the control of the devil,
and masquerading as a believer.
and not protected by the Holy Spirit at all.
I will go on to show that Pastor A
in coming to such a conclusion
that Joseph Prince is an unbeliever
is correct in his discernment
and he is also doctrinally right.
Pastor A, indeed, had the prophetic insight
as he realised that Joseph Prince
was an unbeliever since then,
and today, still is,
as I will prove to you in this ensuing article.
(As I have been around the Christian scene for a long time,
becoming a Christian since 1967, 57 years ago,
I am 95 percent certain,
who the Pastor Joseph Prince was referring to
when he went to him for deliverance.)
Of course, Pastor A is not saying
that Joseph Prince had to obey the Ten Commandments
to be saved.
(And by the way, this is the Straw man strategy
that Joseph Prince constantly uses against us
– that we teach people to obey the law to be saved.)
If that is Pastor A’s view, then he is, undoubtedly, a heretic.
And the Pastors and leaders of Joseph Prince’s previous church
wouldn’t have taken Prince to a heretic to be delivered.
But Pastor A must be of the view
that Joseph Prince has not shown any inclination
or evidence of obeying the Ten Commandments,
even though he claimed to be a believer.
That Joseph Prince is an Antinomian,
who is against the moral law in the Ten Commandments
is proven in the next video.
In a sermon, Joseph Prince said;
Please click here to view that 1-minute video:
“I’ve been a word of faith preacher all the years
before I encountered this Grace Revolution.
I remember 1997,
I was just driving up the Swiss Alps
on vacation with Wendy.
And she was sound asleep beside me,
and I was just minding my own business,
enjoying the Swiss Alps, you know,
the snow and just driving quietly.
And I heard a voice of the Lord.
Now, I’m careful about saying the voice.
Sometimes just impression.
But this was the voice of the Lord on the inside.
And He said this to me,
“You’re not preaching grace.”
I said,
“Lord, I’m a grace man. I preach faith. I preach grace.”
He says,
“No,”
He says,
“Every time you preach grace,
you try to balance it with the law.
And therefore, you neutralise grace.”
And I said,
“Lord, that’s a low blow, whatever do you mean?
And He said,
“Unless you preach radical grace,
lives will not be radically transformed.”
So that mark the journey of grace
and I went back
and I studied all I can about God’s grace.
The voice that spoke to Joseph Prince in 1997,
was definitely not God’s voice but the devil’s voice.
God will never speak to one such, as Joseph Prince,
to go against His word,
His Son Jesus and the Early Church,
the Reformation Church and the Contemporary Church
concerning the doctrine
of the moral law in the Ten Commandments.
But who would be so daring
as to speak against Jesus and His Church?
It is none other than the devil,
who uses Joseph Prince as his mouthpiece.
Jesus never teaches us not to obey the law,
which is the cornerstone of Joseph Prince’s Antinomian doctrine
– that there is no law for New Covenant believers to obey
by virtue of grace
because it has become obsolete.
In fact, Jesus categorically said
we are to obey everything that is written in it.
In a teaching session, George Ong said;
Please click here to view the 2-minute video:
“Jesus’ teaching on the law, Matthew 23:1-4.
There is a difference between legalism and lawkeeping.
So, in the context of Matthew 23,
which I will go through with you,
he (Joseph Prince) mix the two up.
He says the Pharisees obey the law.
We teach people to obey the law,
therefore, we are the Pharisees.
But the Pharisees were lawbreakers.
They were not lawkeepers.
Let me read this.
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
“The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.
Now, this Moses’ seat
is a seat where the Old Testament scribes and Pharisees
will sit on this seat to read the law of Moses.
So, when these people read the law of Moses, the law,
what must they do?
Jesus said, don’t obey the law?
No.
So, you must be careful to do, to do what?
Everything they tell you.
So, God expects us to be lawkeepers.
What did Joseph Prince say?
No law to keep?
But Jesus did not say there is no law to keep.
When the teachers of the law read the law of Moses,
you must be careful to do everything they tell you.
But do not do what they do,
for they do not practice what they preach.
They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads
and put them on other people’s shoulders,
but they themselves
are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
What is legalism?
This is the part that is legalism.
Because these are the oral traditions
which the Pharisees added to the laws.
That makes it cumbersome,
makes it overly burdensome.
You know the Sabbath law,
they add plenty of other additions,
until you can laugh like a jokebook.
Cannot kill an ant, cannot do this under Sabbath laws.
So, these are the oral traditions
that they aren’t supposed to keep.
This is the law of Moses that we must keep.”
So, it is clear that Jesus wasn’t against obeying the law?
In fact, he categorically said we must obey it.
But why did Joseph Prince
directly teaches against the teachings of Jesus on the law?
Why is Joseph Prince so brave to do it the fourth time (Part 4)
besides the 3 other times (Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3)?
And there are many more times
that he daringly went against Jesus’s teachings,
which I will prove to you in my future articles.
Why is Joseph Prince not afraid of losing support from his people,
given the fact that he keeps teaching against Jesus, the Son of God, time after time?
It is because of the occultic powers that he now possessed
from the devil.
to blind millions of his supporters to continue to support him,
despite the fact that Joseph Prince is preaching against Jesus,
who is God Himself.
Who would want to preach against Jesus,
who is God Himself?
– except the devil, who now uses Joseph Prince
whom he empowers with occultic powers to carry it out.
Now, I would unveil the views of 2 Church Fathers
who are of the same stand as me (as expressed in my video),
that Jesus never teaches against the obedience to the law,
but, in fact, He upholds it.
In ‘The Complete Works of JC Ryle,’
JC Ryle wrote:
“Our Lord Jesus Christ declares that
“it is easier for heaven and earth to pass,
than for one tittle of the law to fail.”
The honour of God’s holy law
was frequently defended by Christ
during the time of His ministry on earth.”
In ‘The Complete Works of JC Ryle,’
JC Ryle wrote:
“There is no greater mistake
than to suppose that a Christian
has nothing to do with the law
and the Ten Commandments,
because he cannot be justified by keeping them.
The same Holy Ghost,
who convinces the believer of sin by the law,
and leads him to Christ for justification,
will always lead him to a spiritual use of the law,
as a friendly guide, in the pursuit of sanctification.
Our Lord Jesus Christ
never made light of the Ten Commandments;
on the contrary, in His first public discourse,
the Sermon on the Mount,
He expounded them,
and showed the searching nature of their requirements.”
In ‘Studies in the Sermon on the Mount’,
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:
“The contrast, therefore, is not between
the law given through Moses
and the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ;
it is a contrast, rather, between
the false interpretation of the law of Moses,
and the true presentation of the law given
by our Lord Himself.
Our Lord obviously does not say
that He had come to correct the law of Moses,
because it was God’s law,
given by God Himself to Moses.
No; our Lord’s purpose was to correct the perversion,
the false interpretation of the law
which was being taught to the people
by the Pharisees and scribes.
He is therefore honouring the law of Moses
and displaying it in its great fullness and glory.”
Next, I also said earlier
that Joseph Prince’s doctrine
against the moral law in the Ten Commandments
is also against that of the Reformation Fathers.
In a teaching session, Steve Lawson said;
Please click here to view the 50-second video:
“As a result of the Reformation
because they preached the law.
The third use of the law
was to guide you in Christian living.
This is the path of sanctification.
This isn’t something to discard.
You just discarded the roadmap
to get you to personal holiness.
That’s nuts.
You just took the GPS off your cell phone
for you to try to live your Christian life
without the moral law of God.
Its point is the flashlight;
pointing you down the narrow path,
showing you the essential benchmarks
and how to live a life that honours God.
It is the fruit of life, is what it produces.
So that’s the third use of the law
that came out of the Reformation.”
Steve Lawson correctly pointed out
that the Reformation Fathers,
such as Martin Luther and John Calvin,
preaches the law.
Joseph Prince has lied so many times
and deceived the millions
that what he is preaching about grace and law
is the Reformation teaching.
If that is so,
why is Joseph Prince preaching
that the law has become obsolete?
No Reformation Father ever preaches that.
In fact, Martin Luther had to ‘fight’ against
Joseph Prince’s theological forefathers
– the Antinomians, who preach against obeying God’s laws.
These Antinomians were already around
during Luther’s time.
If you have followed my previous articles,
you would have realised that I have shown you
Church Father after Church Father
who preach that believers must keep the law
as part of sanctification.
In this Article, I will unveil the views of 2 of them:
Charles Spurgeon and Martyn Lloyd-Jones.
The views of these two
are representative of all Church Fathers.
In ‘The Essential Works of Charles Spurgeon, Edited by Daniel Partner,’
Charles Spurgeon wrote:
“A man cannot enter heaven
simply because transgression is put away.
The law must be kept!
There must be a positive obedience
to divine precepts.
George Ong’s comments:
What Charles Spurgeon has strongly implied
is that besides having one’s transgressions forgiven
to enter heaven,
the other is the keeping of God’s laws,
not to qualify one for salvation
but as the evidence of it.
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘The New Testament, Spurgeon’s Sermons By Each Book.’
Charles Spurgeon said:
“Let us never enter into the counsel of those
who do not believe
that there are any commandments
for believers to keep.
Those who do away with duty,
do away with sin
and, consequently, with the Savior!”
George Ong’s comments:
Charles Spurgeon said those who do away with the law
“do away with sin
and, consequently, with the Savior!”
How can Joseph Prince,
who does away with the law
and, consequently, with the Saviour,
be a believer in the first place?
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘The New Testament, Spurgeon’s Sermons By Each Book.’
Charles Spurgeon said:
“A third reason I will give
why the Law must be perpetual
is that to suppose it altered
is most dangerous.
To take away from the Law its perpetuity
is, first of all, to take away
from it its power to convict of sin.
Is it so, that I, being an imperfect creature,
am not expected to keep a perfect Law?
Then it follows that I do not sin
when I break the Law!
… By removing the Law
you have done away with sin,
for sin is the transgression of the Law!
And where there is no Law,
there is no transgression!
When you have done away with sin,
you may as well have done away
with the Savior and with salvation
– for they are by no means necessary!”
George Ong’s comments:
Charles Spurgeon said if one does away with the law,
one is doing away with sin, the Saviour and salvation.
Horrifyingly, that is what Joseph Prince is doing,
as by doing away with the law,
Prince is doing away with salvation.
How can one who does away with salvation
not be a heretic?
He claims that he is preaching the gospel
The truth is his no-law and no-sanctification gospel
that he preaches
is a false gospel that does not save.
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘The New Testament, Spurgeon’s Sermons By Each Book.’
Charles Spurgeon said:
“It is not possible that a rebel should be a friend to Christ.
If a man says of any Law of Christ,
“I do not mean to keep that,”
then, Sir, you have virtually said,
“I do not mean to have Christ for my Lord,”
and that means that you cannot have Him as your Savior.”
George Ong’s comments:
Charles Spurgeon said that one who does not keep the law
is a rebel who does not have Christ as Lord,
and hence, has forfeited the Saviourhood of Christ.
If Joseph Prince who does not keep God’s laws
as he teaches against it
have forfeited the Saviourhood of Christ,
how can he be a Christian to begin with.
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘The New Testament, Spurgeon’s Sermons By Each Book.’
Charles Spurgeon said:
“THE PERPETUITY OF THE LAW OF GOD
“For verily I say unto you, Till Heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Law till all is fulfilled.” Matthew 5:18
Very great mistakes have been made about the Law.
Not long ago there were those about us
who affirmed that the Law
is utterly abrogated and abolished.
They openly taught that believers
were not bound to make the moral Law
the rule of their lives.
… From such Antinomianism as that,
may God deliver us!
We are not under the Law as the method of salvation,
but we delight to see the Law in the hand of Christ
and desire to obey the Lord in all things.
… Beloved, may God save us
from this spirit of Antinomianism!
For of all the devils that have ever come up from Hell,
I believe this is one of the most brazenfaced and deceitful,
and has done more damage among professors
than almost any other.”
George Ong’s comments:
Charles Spurgeon said that Antinomianism
which Joseph Prince is heavily involved in
is of the devil
and comes from hell.
Friends, the Antinomian spirit
that got into Joseph Prince
since he was a young man,
which later solidified
when he obeyed the voice of the devil in 1997
to preach against God’s laws
– doesn’t that prove
that his core grace teachings of law and grace
comes from the devil himself?
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘The Sermons of Charles Spurgeon in Four Volumes, Volume 2: Sermon 201-400,’
Charles Spurgeon said:
“Surely, if sin attacks the sovereignty of God,
self-righteousness is equally guilty of treason:
for as sin boasts, “I will not keep God’s law…”
George Ong’s comments:
Charles Spurgeon said
someone who doesn’t keep the law
operates from the position of sin and self-righteousness,
and both are attacking God’s sovereignty.
How can Joseph Prince,
who fights against the obedience to God’s laws
because of sin and self-righteousness
– and in turn attacks God’s sovereignty,
be a believer in the first place.
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘Great Doctrines of the Bible,’
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:
“It does not mean
we do not have to keep the Ten Commandments.
They still apply to us.
… Our Lord died for us in order to enable us
to live the law and to keep it,
… That is why I denounce the terrible sin of antinomianism.”
George Ong’s comments:
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said that Antinomianism
that teaches against the obedience to God’s laws
by virtue of grace,
which is a core teaching of Joseph Prince
is a terrible sin.
How can Joseph Prince
who is involved in this terrible sin
of teaching against the obeying of God’s laws
be saved at all?
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘Life in God, Life in Christ, Volume 5, Studies in 1 John,’
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:
“The second danger is what you might call
the danger of antinomianism,
and it has led many Christians into grievous error…
They say,
‘I am free from the law.
Because I am now a Christian,
I am no longer under the law but under grace,
and the commandments have nothing to do with me;
I have finished with them.’
… The Ten Commandments are the commandments of God
to men and women at all times and in all places,
and they have never been reduced or modified.
… He (Apostle John) tells us that in a sense
the difference between the Christian and the non-Christian
comes out more clearly,
perhaps, with regard to this question
of keeping the commandments
than anywhere else.
… To the non-Christian,
the commandments are very heavy.
The commandments of God to non-Christians are a yoke…
But not to the Christian;
His commandments, says John,
are not a task and a terrible duty
to the one who really is born again
– His commandments are ‘not grievous.’
So here is the test that we must all put to ourselves:
what is our attitude to the commandments of God?
… is it my desire to keep the commandments of God;
do I recognise that they are essentially right,
and do I long to conform to them increasingly?
These are the questions,
and it is my answer to them
that really proclaim whether I am a Christian or not.”
George Ong’s comments:
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said that one can tell the difference
between a Christian and a non-Christian
by his or her attitude towards the obedience to God’s laws.
To the Christian, it is the desire to keep God’s laws,
but to the non-Christian, it is a task and a yoke.
Joseph Prince who not only treats the obedience to God’s laws as a yoke,
as he said it is impossible to obey them,
but what is worse is,
he teaches against obeying them,
which categorically reveals himself as an unbeliever.
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
In ‘Walking with God, Life in Christ, Volume 2, Studies in 1 John,’
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:
“I feel at times we ought to put the Ten Commandments
in the forefront of our preaching.
… The test whereby we know we are His is this:
are you keeping His commandments?
Keeping His commandments does not mean
I just put on the wall a list of specific injunctions
and do my best to keep them.
Rather, it means that I am always concerned
to be living the Christian life as fully as I can;
that my great object is to be well-pleasing in His sight.
I know what He wants me to do;
I find it in the Old and in the New Testaments.
I have the Ten Commandments
and the Sermon on the Mount
which apply to me,
and I have the whole moral, ethical teaching
of the New Testament.
Those are His commandments
and I have to keep them.
… You cannot walk with God
without keeping His commandments.”
George Ong’s comments:
Martyn Lloyd-Jones said
the test of whether we belong to God
is whether we are obeying God’s commandments.
He added that if we don’t keep God’s commandments,
we cannot claim to be walking with Him.
This only indicates that Joseph Prince
who teaches that there is no law to obey
because it has become obsolete
is not only not walking with God,
but he does not belong to Him.
This proves that the discernment of Pastor A,
who concluded that Joseph Prince isn’t a Christian
is correct
because there is no evidence
that he obeyed God’s laws.
By now, you ought to be convinced
that by the witness of Charles Spurgeon and Martyn Lloyd-Jones,
whose views about the law
that they have not been made obsolete
and we must obey them,
represent that of the Early Church Fathers,
the Reformation Fathers
and Church Fathers for years after that,
Joseph Prince, who taught against obeying God’s laws,
is not only committing a terrible sin,
but he has also revealed himself as an unbeliever.
That is not all.
Let me surface Michael Brown’s views about the law.
Michael Brown’s view represents the views
of all true Church Fathers and true Christian leaders
of the Contemporary Church.
In a teaching session, Michael Brown said;
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“And that’s the larger question
about the Ten Commandments.
Does grace make them outdated?
No.
Of course not.
What’s written in Ephesians 6?
Paul says to the children,
“Children obey your parents in the Lord for this is right.
Honor your father and mother
which is the first commandment
with a promise that it may go well with you.”
So, Paul’s actually quoting the Ten Commandments,
and quoting them to believers under grace,
and saying that this is a principle by which we live,
and that it’s the first commandment that God gave,
that had an accompanying promise;
if you do this, it will go well with you.
There’s nothing wrong with commandments.
Paul gives commandments in the New Testament,
this is how you should live to the Thessalonians for example.
1 Thessalonians 4, the word, ‘therefore’
instructions really means commandments.
These are firm things.
Jesus says, “If you love me keep my commandments.”
There is nothing wrong with commandments.
The problem is,
that they are written on stone
rather than written on our heart.
But here’s what we have to realize, a lot of people say,
“Well, I’m under grace
I don’t need all these laws and commandments.”
Then why does Paul teach us how to live?
Why does Paul say do this, don’t do this?
Live like this don’t live this?
Why does Peter do?
In fact, Peter has a whole book
filled with exhortations; how to live,
how to be holy,
how to walk in submission,
how to abstain from sinful fleshly desires.
how to resist the devil, the warfare,
when he comes to the end of his book 1 Peter 5
and says, “This is the true grace of God.”
So, grace is not in opposition
to laws and commandments.
Grace empowers us
to live out the laws and commandments
because they’re now written on our hearts.”
Let me repeat, Michael Brown’s view
that the law that still applies to New Covenant believers,
represent that of the Contemporary Church.
For Singaporean believers, please ask your Pastor
whether he or she holds
to the opinion of Michael Brown or Joseph Prince?
No Singapore Pastor
or any true Evangelical Pastor
or Church in the world
would hold to the view of Joseph Prince.
Why?
Because no true Pastor or Church
would dare to speak against Jesus, Paul,
and all the Church Fathers in the history of Christianity
concerning the moral law in the Ten Commandments
– except for Joseph Prince.
Joseph Prince dared to speak against Jesus, Paul,
the Church Fathers and against His word,
because Prince doesn’t belong the people of God.
He belongs to the devil.
Joseph Prince is empowered by Satan with occultic powers
that he is so daring to preach not only against Jesus, Paul,
but also against every Church Father
throughout the centuries of Christianity
and every true Contemporary Church.
Here, we are not talking
about Joseph Prince speaking against Jesus and God’s word
for only once or twice,
but ‘countless’ of times.
Here, we are not talking about Joseph Prince,
influencing only 1 or 2 countries,
but plenty of countries.
Here, we are not talking about Joseph Prince
deceiving only one or two thousand people,
but millions of people.
And despite Joseph Prince,
who preaches against Jesus openly and publicly,
plenty of times,
he is still able to retain support from the millions.
Why?
It takes nothing less than
the occultic powers and practice of witchcraft
that the devil has empowered him with
to pull this off.
That being the case,
Why is a Singapore Methodist Bishop
and a Singapore Presbyterian Pastor
say that Joseph Prince is not a heretic?
Why is the National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS)
still keeping silent and allowing Joseph Prince
who is involved with the occult and witchcraft,
and an unbeliever,
and New Creation Church
to remain under her umbrella?
Don’t the Singapore Methodist Bishop
and the Singapore Presbyterian Pastor
and the members of the Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS)
know who Charles Spurgeon and Martyn Lloyd-Jones are,
and who wrote so pointedly
against the law teachings of Joseph Prince
that would have cast him in the mould of an unbeliever?
Finally, Joseph Prince said:
“But this was the clincher.
Right at the end, he came back with my leader,
from my church and he says this.
“You know, the thing is this,
we have concluded that you are not;
you are not saved.
You’re not saved.
You need to be saved.”
I said, “Why am I not saved?”
He said,
“Because have you,
have you kept the Ten Commandments,”
… “You see you broke all ten.
How can you be saved?”
Joseph Prince is so blinded
that he overconfidently thinks
he is using the clincher in his favour.
But I believe it is the Holy Spirit,
who orchestrated what he said
in his Sunday sermon yesterday
to expose him again.
Just as Joseph Prince has unwittingly revealed
that he is involved in witchcraft in a previous Sunday sermon,
he did it again the second time yesterday,
when he inadvertently revealed himself as an unbeliever.
Do you know the root of his blindness?
It is nothing less than his pride
to admit he was wrong in most of his doctrines.
And pride will be his downfall
as was the case of his godfather, the devil.
Rev George Ong
Appendix
For those who have missed the following 4 articles,
you are strongly advised to read them:
Joseph Prince involved in the Occult & Witchcraft Part 1
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