Joseph Prince’s repentance doesn’t save, according to Martyn Lloyd-Jones & Charles Spurgeon & he mocks what Jesus approves – godly sorrow in repentance – By Rev George Ong (Dated 15 Feb 2024)

 

Announcements:

 

1. Joseph Prince didn’t preach for the last 2 Sundays.

 

2. This article is another backlog of Joseph Prince’s rubbish in his sermon on 7 Jan 2024 to clear.

 

3. Note there is 1 video on Michael Brown & 2 videos on Joseph Prince.

 

4. You mustn’t miss the excellent and full comments of Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Michael Brown & Charles Spurgeon in the latter half of this Article.

 

Excerpt No 1 from the Article:

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“If we have listened to these great truths all our lives

 

and have never had any sorrow in our hearts

 

because of our failure to see them,

 

and to be moved by them,

 

we have no right to think of ourselves

 

as saved people.

 

You cannot have saving faith

 

without knowing something about this sorrow

 

– sorrow that you have grieved a holy, loving God…”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

This means that Joseph Prince

 

who teaches against godly sorrow in repentance,

 

isn’t saved to begin with;

 

and the horrifying thing is that

 

this includes the millions of souls

 

whom he has deceived.

 

Excerpt No 2 from the Article:

 

Michael Brown said:

 

“Just think of how silly it would be

 

if “repent”

 

only meant “change your mind.”

 

… If repentance is only a change of mind

 

with no conviction involved,

 

then why did Paul tell the Corinthians:

 

“Godly sorrow brings repentance

 

that leads to salvation and leaves no regret…” (2 Cor. 7:10)?

 

Is it too much to think that the sinner should feel sorry

 

that he has sinned against God Almighty?”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Michael Brown is effectively saying

 

that Joseph Prince is a silly fellow

 

as he teaches repentance

 

is only a change of mind

 

without godly sorrow.

 

Friends, Joseph Prince is more than silly.

 

The bigger problem is his pride.

 

As he is too proud to admit

 

that he is sorely wrong in most of his grace teachings,

 

he is not only leading himself

 

but also millions of others

 

down the path of spiritual destruction. 

 

Excerpt No 3 from the Article:

 

Charles Spurgeon said:

 

“The repentance that does not include sincere sorrow for sin

 

is not the saving Grace that is worked by the Holy Spirit!

 

God-given repentance makes men grieve in their inmost souls

 

over the sin they have committed…”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

This means that the repentance

 

that does not include sorrow for sin

 

which Joseph Prince preaches,

 

(in fact, he preaches against it),

 

has no saving grace.

 

Excerpt No 4 from the Article:

 

Are you aware that

 

Joseph Prince spoke well of Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon

 

in his sermons and books?

 

Joseph Prince owes us an explanation to this ‘mystery’

 

– why do these 2 spiritual giants,

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon,

 

he spoke well of,

 

had concluded that his repentance teaching,

 

does not save.

 

Excerpt No 5 from the Article:

 

My Parting Shot to Joseph Prince:

 

“Hey Joe, you no future, already, Lah.

 

Even those super Bible teachers

 

like Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon

 

you praised publicly, turned against you.

 

They say your repentance teaching

 

too much mind, too Chim (intellectual),

 

no feeling one, cannot save soul.

 

So many are asking, what happened?

 

How come you can praise people, publicly,

 

who sabo (tage) you.

 

A normal person won’t do that, right?

 

Anything wrong with you, or not?

 

This time, don’t act as a coward again, okay.

 

For the Founder of Hyflux case, you so coward.

 

Keep so silent, even a pin drop, cannot hear.

 

This time, come on, be a man.

 

I know you are a man, Lah,

 

but you must also act like a man, Mah.

 

So, come clean and explain this mystery

 

– why you praise Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon publicly

 

when they say your repentance teaching cannot save soul.”

 

(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)

 

Please click here

 

to view the entire video.

 

In a Sunday sermon aired on YouTube,

 

7 Jan 2024, Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click here to view the 40-second video:

 

“Now do you still fail?

 

I understand, you still sin.

 

Yes, we all still fail (or sin).

 

But then there we got to remember the cross.

 

But when you fail (or sin),

 

remember the cross.

 

Remember what He did.

 

Repent of it (false repentance) Amen,

 

and remember what He did.

 

But if you condemn yourself.

 

You start saying,

 

‘God, I’m sorry, I’m sorry.’

 

But instead of looking at the cross,

 

you keep on looking at yourself,

 

and your moral corruption,

 

and you start looking within,

 

you start getting depressed,

 

and you think you are repenting,

 

that is not repentance, people.

 

Repentance is looking to Jesus,

 

away from self.”

 

As usual, Joseph Prince has told another lie in a half-truth.

 

A half-truth is not any different from a lie

 

because it distorts the truth.

 

And when truth is distorted,

 

it is no longer the truth.

 

The half-truth that Joseph Prince said was that when we sinned,

 

we are to remember the cross.

 

There is nothing wrong with remembering the cross,

 

as it is a reminder

 

that the provision for the forgiveness of all sins,

 

past, present, future,

 

has been made by Christ on the cross. 

 

But the other half-truth that Joseph Prince hides from you

 

and even preached against

 

is that while past sins are forgiven,

 

the forgiveness of present and future sins

 

are not automatically forgiven,

 

unless they are confessed and repented of (1 Jn 1:9 and many passages).

 

Next, Joseph Prince has redefined repentance

 

to one that is heretical when he said:

 

“But when you fail (or sin),

 

remember the cross.

 

Remember what He did.

 

Repent of it (false repentance), Amen.

 

But if you condemn yourself.

 

You start saying,

 

‘God, I’m sorry, I’m sorry.’

 

But instead of looking at the cross,

 

you keep on looking at yourself,

 

and your moral corruption,

 

and you start looking within,

 

you start getting depressed,

 

and you think you are repenting,

 

that is not repentance, people.

 

Repentance is looking to Jesus,

 

away from self.”

 

While there is nothing wrong

 

to look at the cross and even to Jesus

 

in our repentance,

 

Joseph Prince taught a lie

 

that repentance is not about saying sorry to God

 

and being grieved over our moral corruption.

 

Joseph Prince has craftily smuggled in the false consequences

 

that when we repent in that way,

 

we are condemning ourselves

 

and we will be depressed.

 

Friends, if there is true repentance of godly sorrow,

 

there won’t be a single trace of condemnation or depression.

 

On the contrary,

 

condemnation and depression would afflict you

 

when you refused to confess and repent of your sins to God.

 

I have given proof that

 

Joseph Prince mocks godly sorrow in repentance

 

when he said:

 

“But if you condemn yourself.

 

You start saying,

 

‘God, I’m sorry, I’m sorry.’

 

… you keep on looking at yourself,

 

and your moral corruption,

 

and you start looking within,

 

… and you think you are repenting,

 

that is not repentance, people.

 

Repentance is looking to Jesus … away from self.”

 

Right now, I am giving you another even more concrete proof

 

in another video

 

that Joseph Prince mocks godly sorrow

 

in the context of repentance.

 

What is worse is that when Joseph Prince mocks godly sorrow

 

in the context of repentance,

 

he is actually mocking what Jesus taught

 

because Jesus approves of godly sorrow.

 

In a sermon, Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click here to view 1-minute video:

 

“There are those who would say things like,

 

‘You know Joseph Prince,

 

you don’t preach too much on repentance.

 

You and Joel (Joel Osteen), both are in the same mix.’

 

But when they say that,

 

what they are trying to say

 

is that you don’t preach repentance

 

where people are crying

 

and people are sobbing

 

and hitting their breasts and say,

 

‘Jesus, Jesus’.

 

What we have is the pulpit preaching

 

and then peoples’ lives are being transformed,

 

minds are changing.

 

And the Greek word for repentance

 

– metanoia – change of mind.” 

 

Say repentance.

 

Now, I can preach it like this,

 

‘Okay, repent’, okay.

 

Or, I can tell you – change your mind.

 

Alright, you used to think this way,

 

now, think this way because

 

the word repentance is so abused today

 

that people will say things like,

 

‘Alright, well, so and so doesn’t preach repentance,

 

well, that preacher, you know.

 

He doesn’t preach repentance,

 

as if they are an authority on repentance.’

 

And I just want to question their idea of repentance.

 

What do they mean when they say repentance?

 

But godly sorrow is not repentance.

 

But godly sorrow is not repentance.

 

People are crying and people are sobbing

 

and hitting their breasts and say,

 

‘Jesus, Jesus.’”

 

Joseph Prince said in the video:

 

“But godly sorrow is not repentance.

 

People are crying and people are sobbing

 

and hitting their breasts and say,

 

‘Jesus, Jesus.’”

 

Joseph Prince is clearly mocking godly sorrow.

 

But Jesus never mocks godly sorrow,

 

on the contrary, He approves of it

 

in the context of repentance from one’s sins.

 

Jesus said in Luke 18:13:

 

Luke 18:13 NLT

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’

 

Luke 18:13 TLB

13 “But the corrupt tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed, but beat upon his chest in sorrow, exclaiming, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner.’

 

Jesus was contrasting between the proud and self-righteous Pharisee

 

and the humble and repentant tax collector in Luke 18:9-14.

 

Here, Jesus was painting the picture of the tax collector,

 

humbly repenting from his sins,

 

by beating his chest in sorrow

 

in Luke 18:13.

 

Jesus commended him

 

for his sorrowful and humble actions of repentance

 

when He said in the next verse in Luke 18:14:

 

Luke 18:14 NLT

“I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

 

If Joseph Prince can mock this tax collector

 

who was genuinely repenting

 

by beating his chest in sorrow,

 

and Jesus said he was justified,

 

Prince must be the Pharisee

 

who, in detesting such a genuine form of repentance,

 

isn’t justified.

 

As you will see in the latter part of this article

 

as proven by Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon

 

– that Joseph Prince isn’t justified

 

is because he despised such expressions of godly sorrow.

 

Joseph Prince has been falsely accusing his critics of being the Pharisees.

 

So, now you know who the real Pharisee is

 

– Joseph Prince, who reviled godly sorrow in repentance.

 

Jesus Himself encourages us to mourn over our sins in sorrow

 

in the context of repentance,

 

and He promises to bless those who do in Matthew 5:4:

 

Matthew 5:4 NIV

4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.”

 

While Jesus approves and encourages godly sorrow,

 

Joseph Prince has the audacity to mock it.

 

I can’t believe this

 

– Joseph Prince is effectively saying to Jesus:

 

“Jesus, you are wrong about the issue of mourning

 

and sorrow on repentance,

 

and I am right

 

because the word of God does not say

 

that repentance involves mourning and sorrow.

 

Jesus, let me teach you something about repentance

 

which you don’t seem to be aware of

 

– it just means changing your mind.” 

 

In the video,

 

Joseph Prince mocks the excellent example

 

that Jesus had personally quoted

 

about how the tax collector,

 

had expressed true repentance

 

through godly sorrow

 

by beating his chest.

 

If Joseph Prince dares to mock

 

what Jesus teaches and approves,

 

how can he claim to be a Christ-centred preacher,

 

and how can he not be a son of the devil?

 

If Paul were alive today,

 

he would severely reprimand Joseph Prince as an arrogant man

 

because of his lack of godly sorrow

 

and worse, for teaching against it.

 

Paul himself said that the arrogance of the Corinthians

 

has to do with their failure

 

to show godly sorrow against sin

 

or mourn over the sin of incest

 

that is committed by a man in their community

 

in 1 Corinthians 5:1-5:

 

1 Corinthians 5:1-2 NASB

1 “It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father’s wife. 2 You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst.”

 

1 Corinthians 5:2 NET

2 “And you are proud! Shouldn’t you have been deeply sorrowful instead and removed the one who did this from among you?”

 

1 Corinthians 5:2 NLT

2 “You are so proud of yourselves, but you should be mourning in sorrow and shame. And you should remove this man from your fellowship.”

 

Only the humble will mourn over

 

and be deeply sorrowful over their sins.

 

But Joseph Prince because of his pride mocks godly sorrow

 

and teaches that believers do not need to mourn

 

or feel sorrowful over their sins.

 

Joseph Prince is arrogantly mocking

 

what Paul was trying to tell the Corinthians

 

that they should be deeply sorrowful over the sin of incest

 

that they seem to tolerate. 

 

Furthermore, Paul teaches that godly sorrow is a good thing

 

that leads to repentance and salvation

 

in 2 Corinthians 7:8-11:

 

2 Corinthians 7:8-11 NASB

8 “For though I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it—for I see that that letter caused you sorrow, though only for a while— 9 I now rejoice, not that you were made sorrowful, but that you were made sorrowful to the point of repentance; for you were made sorrowful according to the will of God, so that you might not suffer loss in anything through us. 10 For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death. 11 For behold what earnestness this very thing, this godly sorrow, has produced in you: what vindication of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what longing, what zeal, what avenging of wrong! In everything you demonstrated yourselves to be innocent in the matter.”

 

Here, the words ‘sorrow’ and ‘sorrowful’

 

appear eight times in this short passage.

 

And the appearance of the two words,

 

‘sorrow’ and ‘sorrowful’

 

is in the context of repentance.

 

Doesn’t that tell us that there is something important

 

about the two words with regards to repentance?

 

Paul clearly said that the sorrow which the Corinthians felt

 

that led them to repentance

 

is according to the will of God. 

 

But Joseph Prince said that repentance

 

has nothing to do with mourning and sorrow.

 

In ‘Destined To Reign’, Joseph Prince wrote:

 

“…many of us have the impression

 

that repentance is something

 

that involves mourning and sorrow.

 

However, that is not what the Word of God says.

 

Repentance just means changing your mind.”

 

Joseph Prince even dared to say

 

that the word of God

 

never teach about mourning and sorrow

 

in repentance.  

 

Here is a guy who even dares to disagree with God.

 

It takes an arrogant guy like Joseph Prince

 

who dares to mess around with God

 

when he mocks in the video, the very thing

 

– godly sorrow

 

– that God wants to produce in believers

 

that can lead them to repentance.

 

Joseph Prince’s claim that what he taught

 

is nothing but Pauline theology of grace

 

is a sham

 

because he has misrepresented Paul

 

not only on the doctrine of repentance

 

but many other doctrines as well.

 

Joseph Prince has also contradicted

 

the four other passages in the scriptures

 

when he said that repentance

 

has nothing to do with sorrow and mourning:

 

Isaiah 22:12 TLB

12 “The Lord God called you to repent, to weep and mourn, to shave your heads in sorrow for your sins, and to wear clothes made of sackcloth to show your remorse.”

 

Jeremiah 4:8 NLT

8 “So put on clothes of mourning and weep with broken hearts, for the fierce anger of the Lord is still upon us.”

 

Ezekiel 7:18 NLT

18 “They will dress themselves in burlap; horror and shame will cover them. They will shave their heads in sorrow and remorse.”

 

Jonah 3:5 NLT

5 “The people of Nineveh believed God’s message, and from the greatest to the least, they declared a fast and put on burlap to show their sorrow.”

 

Joseph Prince’s false idea of repentance

 

is entirely different from what had taken place

 

in every recorded revival in history.

 

From the days of great leaders

 

such as Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield, Charles Finney, John Wesley

 

and down through the ages,

 

great revivals have always been marked

 

by cries of sorrow and repentance and conviction of sins.

 

Although revival leaders throughout history

 

have differed on some doctrinal points,

 

they all preached that God’s people

 

must live a holy life marked by repentance.

 

Revivals were filled with cries of brokenness and godly sorrow

 

not only from the lost

 

but also from many Christians and even ministers.

 

Revival always includes the heavy conviction of sin

 

and heartfelt and sorrowful repentance

 

on the part of the Church

 

– that which Joseph Prince preached against.

 

Joseph Prince says the Holy Spirit

 

will never convict believers of sin

 

when such conviction of sins and repentance

 

that are initiated by the Holy Spirit

 

are unmistakably witnessed

 

in all the revivals of history.

 

Joseph Prince, by saying that repentance

 

is not marked by mourning and sorrow,

 

is effectively saying that all the revivals

 

in the History of Christianity

 

that are marked by sorrowful repentance

 

are not of God.

 

Next, we have to note what James said about

 

grieving, mourning and wailing in James 4:8-9,

 

have everything to do

 

with godly sorrow regarding sin and repentance:

 

James 4:8-9 NIV

8 “Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom.”

 

James 4:8-9 NLT

8 “Come close to God, and God will come close to you. Wash your hands, you sinners; purify your hearts, for your loyalty is divided between God and the world. 9 Let there be tears for what you have done. Let there be sorrow and deep grief. Let there be sadness instead of laughter, and gloom instead of joy.”

 

While it is true that not all sorrow and mourning

 

is indicative of true repentance,

 

true repentance scripturally involves sorrow and mourning,

 

if not outwardly, then at least inwardly.  

 

Hence, Joseph Prince’s doctrine

 

that repentance is only a ‘change of mind’

 

and does not involve sorrow and mourning

 

is resoundingly demolished.

 

Let me now feature

 

what Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Michael Brown and Charles Spurgeon

 

have to say about the heretical teachings of Joseph Prince

 

regarding repentance.

 

In ‘Great Doctrines of the Bible,’

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“‘Wherefore I abhor myself,

 

and repent in dust and ashes,’

 

says job (Job 42:6).

 

Consider also Psalm 51

 

and notice the deep feeling expressed by David.

 

Then take the famous parable

 

spoken by our Lord

 

about the Pharisee and the tax collector.

 

We are told that the tax collector,

 

‘smote upon his breast’ (Luke 18:13).

 

He not only felt that he could not look up into heaven,

 

that he had no right to speak and could only stand afar off,

 

but he smote his breast.

 

Romans 7:24 says,

 

‘O wretched man that I am!

 

who shall deliver me from the body of this death?’

 

And in 2 Corinthians 7:11,

 

11 For behold what earnestness this very thing,

 

this godly sorrow, has produced in you…

 

there is an extraordinary description

 

of the emotions involved in true repentance.

 

But our blessed Lord Himself

 

has said the whole thing in one of His beatitudes,

 

in the Sermon on the Mount:

 

‘Blessed are they that mourn’ (Matt. 5:4);

 

they are not only poor in spirit,

 

they mourn.

 

Now is this not something that somehow or other

 

has been overlooked by us?

 

How often at the present time

 

do you see people in agony

 

because of sin?

 

How many of our converts

 

know anything about an anguish of soul?

 

How often today are men and women

 

seen to be shedding tears

 

because of their conviction of sin?

 

How many people have you known

 

who have groaned because of their sinfulness?

 

Have we, I wonder?

 

But all these are to be found in the Scriptures.

 

Repentance includes the heart and the feelings.

 

It is not a passing sorrow;

 

it is not some desire for something.

 

No, no, this law-work

 

leads to profound emotion.

 

As I have said,

 

the intensity of the emotional manifestation

 

will vary from case to case.

 

We differ emotionally

 

as we differ in every other respect,

 

but what I am concerned to emphasise

 

is that there always must be

 

this powerful element of emotion;

 

and it is not true repentance

 

if it is not there.

 

Think of Charles Wesley’s great hymn:

 

‘Jesus, lover of my soul’.

 

Let us never forget

 

that it was that godly, moral and religious young man who said,

 

Just and holy is thy name,

 

I am all unrighteousness,

 

Vile and full of sin I am.

 

You feel the emotion;

 

he is conscious of it.

 

There must be a kind of anguish,

 

a sense of fear and dread.

 

The emotions are always engaged in repentance;

 

as Paul says ‘a godly sorrow’ (2 Cor. 7:10).

 

And then, thirdly, repentance also includes the will.

 

This is vital.

 

As Isaiah said,

 

‘Let the wicked forsake his way,

 

and the unrighteous man his thought’ (Isa. 55:7).

 

He must forsake it.

 

He is not only to feel sorry,

 

he is not only to see his sin,

 

he must leave it.

 

‘Rend your hearts, and not your garments,

 

and turn unto the Lord your God’ (Joel 2:13).”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“As I have said,

 

the intensity of the emotional manifestation

 

will vary from case to case.

 

We differ emotionally

 

as we differ in every other respect,

 

but what I am concerned to emphasise

 

is that there always must be

 

this powerful element of emotion;

 

and it is not true repentance

 

if it is not there.”

 

This simply means that Joseph Prince,

 

who teaches against godly sorrow and mourning,

 

which are emotional responses to our repentance,

 

isn’t teaching true repentance 

 

– and such kind of repentance cannot save. 

 

In ‘Romans, An Exposition of Chapter 10, Saving Faith,’

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“So, the first element in this process of repentance

 

is ‘a change of mind’,

 

and that is the meaning of the Greek word

 

for repentance, metanoia.

 

… But that is not enough.

 

You cannot change your opinion

 

with regard to God’s whole plan of salvation

 

and your relationship to him,

 

without feeling sorrow

 

for ever having held the wrong view.

 

When that first son saw that he was wrong,

 

he was sorry, and he felt it so much

 

that he went to the vineyard.

 

Sorrow!

 

There is always the element of sorrow in repentance.

 

The heart, as we saw in our definition,

 

includes the mind, the feelings,

 

and also, as we shall see, the will;

 

but the heart and the feelings

 

are of necessity involved.

 

Now, the best statement,

 

I think, in the whole of the New Testament

 

on the aspect of sorrow

 

is in 2 Corinthians 7:

 

2 Corinthians 7:8-11 NASB

8 “For though I caused you sorrow by my letter, I do not regret it; though I did regret it—for I see that that letter caused you sorrow, though only for a while— 9 I now rejoice, not that you were made sorrowful, but that you were made sorrowful to the point of repentance; for you were made sorrowful according to the will of God, so that you might not suffer loss in anything through us. 10 For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death. 11 For behold what earnestness this very thing, this godly sorrow, has produced in you: what vindication of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what longing, what zeal, what avenging of wrong! In everything you demonstrated yourselves to be innocent in the matter.”

 

This is very important.

 

We cannot come to see

 

that our whole relationship with God has been wrong,

 

that our attitude to God has been wrong,

 

that we have been rebellious,

 

that we have been defiant,

 

that we have thrust aside as nothing

 

God’s greatest act in giving His only begotten Son

 

to the death of the cross

 

– we cannot suddenly realise

 

that we have been guilty of all that,

 

without feeling intense sorrow:

 

godly sorrow!

 

If we have listened to these great truths all our lives

 

and have never had any sorrow in our hearts

 

because of our failure to see them,

 

and to be moved by them,

 

we have no right to think of ourselves

 

as saved people.

 

You cannot have saving faith

 

without knowing something about this sorrow

 

– sorrow that you have grieved a holy, loving God,

 

sorrow that you have treated God,

 

who has been so kind and gracious,

 

in the way that you have.

 

Indeed, you can scarcely forgive yourself!

 

‘What indignation,’ says Paul.

 

Indignation with yourself!

 

And if you have never felt that you are unworthy,

 

if you have never hated yourself,

 

then I think you had better examine the foundations again.

 

Christians are people who hate themselves

 

because they see that they are miserable sinners

 

who have rebelled against their Maker and Creator.

 

Godly sorrow!

 

It is essential.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“If we have listened to these great truths all our lives

 

and have never had any sorrow in our hearts

 

because of our failure to see them,

 

and to be moved by them,

 

we have no right to think of ourselves

 

as saved people.

 

You cannot have saving faith

 

without knowing something about this sorrow

 

– sorrow that you have grieved a holy, loving God…”

 

This means that Joseph Prince

 

who preaches against godly sorrow in repentance,

 

isn’t saved, to begin with;

 

and the horrifying thing is that

 

this includes the millions of souls

 

whom he has deceived.

 

In a discussion, Michael Brown said:

 

Please click here to view the 20-second video:

 

“Repentance to them (Hyper grace & Joseph Prince)

 

simply means change your mind.

 

Not about just changing your mind.

 

It’s a turnaround.

 

What does Paul say in 2 Corinthians 7?

 

– that godly sorrow leads to repentance.

 

So, we’re talking about you’re convicted.

 

You recognise what’s wrong.

 

You acknowledge it and by God’s grace,

 

you turned around.

 

You don’t just change your mind

 

 in your attitude towards something.”

 

In ‘2 Books in 1 Volume, Whatever Happened to the Power of God & It’s Time to Rock the Boat,’

 

Michael Brown wrote:

 

“But doesn’t the Greek word for repentance

 

only mean ‘a change of mind’?

 

Isn’t God just telling us to change our minds about Jesus?

 

Isn’t this talk about

 

‘being sorry for our sins’

 

a carry-over from Old Testament legalistic bondage?

 

Absolutely not!

 

First, John the Baptist, Jesus,

 

and all the apostles were first-century Jews

 

who spoke Aramaic (and probably Hebrew),

 

and the fundamental Aramaic and Hebrew word for repent

 

means “turn around, turn back, do an about-face.

 

(The other Hebrew word used for repent

 

means “feel sorrow, grief, and regret;

 

have second thoughts, change your mind.”)

 

Second, the New Testament

 

makes it perfectly clear

 

that the proof of repentance

 

is seen in one’s actions (see Luke 3:7-14 and Acts 26:20).

 

Third, the best scholars of New Testament Greek

 

understand the Greek words metanoeo (repent)

 

and metanoia (repentance)

 

to mean more than just a change of mind:

 

The authoritative Theological Dictionary

 

of the New Testament states:

 

“…metanoeo and metanoia are the forms

 

in which the NT gives new expression

 

to the ancient concept of religious and moral conversion….

 

[The repentance preaching of Jesus]

 

demands radical conversion,

 

a transformation of nature,

 

a definitive turning from evil,

 

a resolute turning to God in total obedience (Mark. 1:15; Matt. 4:17; 18:3).”

 

(J. Behm, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, ed. G. W. Bromily, vol. 4)

 

A.T. Robertson, one of the greatest Greek scholars of the century,

 

taught that the New Testament preaching of repentance said:

 

“Change your mind and life.

 

Turn right about

 

and do it now.”

 

(A.T. Robertson, Word Pictures of the New Testament, vol. 3)

 

The widely acclaimed New International Dictionary

 

of New Testament Theology says:

 

“The predominantly intellectual understanding of metanoia

 

as change of mind

 

plays very little part in the NT.

 

Rather, the decision by the whole man

 

to turn around is stressed.

 

It is clear that we are concerned

 

neither with a purely outward turning

 

nor with a merely intellectual change of ideas.”

 

(New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology, ed. Colin Brown)

 

Just think of how silly it would be

 

if “repent”

 

only meant “change your mind.”

 

The words of Jesus would then become preposterous:

 

Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida!

 

If the miracles that were performed in you

 

had been performed in Tyre and Sidon,

 

they would have repented [changed their mind?]

 

long ago in sackcloth and ashes (Matthew 11:21).

 

No!

 

They would have “repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.”

 

John’s baptism would have become nonsense:

 

…a baptism of repentance [changing of mind?]

 

for the forgiveness of sins (Luke 3:3).

 

No!

 

It was a baptism of repentance for forgiveness of sins.

 

If repentance is only a change of mind

 

with no conviction involved,

 

then why did Paul tell the Corinthians:

 

“Godly sorrow brings repentance

 

that leads to salvation and leaves no regret…” (2 Cor. 7:10)?

 

Is it too much to think that the sinner should feel sorry

 

that he has sinned against God Almighty?

 

Was this primarily an Old Testament phenomenon? (I’ve heard that taught too!)

 

Is it unreasonable to believe

 

that when the transgressor realizes it was his own sin

 

that nailed the Savior to the Cross,

 

he might be cut to the heart?

 

Did James (in the New Testament, no less)

 

know what he was doing

 

when he called on sinners

 

to “grieve, mourn and wail” (James 4:9)?”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Michael Brown said:

 

“Just think of how silly it would be

 

if “repent”

 

only meant “change your mind.”

 

… If repentance is only a change of mind

 

with no conviction involved,

 

then why did Paul tell the Corinthians:

 

“Godly sorrow brings repentance

 

that leads to salvation and leaves no regret…” (2 Cor. 7:10)?

 

Is it too much to think that the sinner should feel sorry

 

that he has sinned against God Almighty?”

 

Michael Brown is effectively saying

 

that Joseph Prince is a silly fellow

 

as he teaches repentance

 

is only a change of mind

 

without godly sorrow.

 

Friends, Joseph Prince is more than silly.

 

The bigger problem is his pride.

 

As he is too proud to admit

 

that he is sorely wrong in most of his grace teachings,

 

he is not only leading himself

 

but also millions of others

 

down the path of spiritual destruction. 

 

In ‘The New Testament, Spurgeon’s Sermons By Each Book.’

 

Charles Spurgeon said:

 

“Many mistakes are made

 

as to what true evangelical repentance really is.

 

Just how, some professedly Christian teachers

 

are misleading many

 

by saying that

 

“repentance is only a change of mind.”

 

It is true that the original word

 

does convey the idea of a change of mind,

 

but the whole teaching of Scripture

 

concerning the repentance

 

which is not to be repented of

 

is that it is a much more radical and complete change

 

than is implied by our common phrase

 

about changing one’s mind.

 

The repentance that does not include sincere sorrow for sin

 

is not the saving Grace that is worked by the Holy Spirit!

 

God-given repentance makes men grieve in their inmost souls

 

over the sin they have committed

 

– and works in them a gracious hatred of evil

 

in every shape and form!

 

We cannot find a better definition of repentance

 

than the one many of us learned at our mother’s knee

 

– “Repentance is to leave The sin

 

we loved before,

 

And show that we in earnest grieve,

 

By doing so no more.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Charles Spurgeon said:

 

“The repentance that does not include sincere sorrow for sin

 

is not the saving Grace that is worked by the Holy Spirit!

 

God-given repentance makes men grieve in their inmost souls

 

over the sin they have committed…”

 

This means that the repentance

 

that does not include sorrow for sin

 

which Joseph Prince preaches,

 

(in fact, he preaches against it),

 

has no saving grace.

 

Both Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon

 

have stated that Joseph Prince,

 

who teaches against godly sorrow for repentance

 

– that his repentance teaching

 

which is only a change of mind,

 

does not save.

 

For those who are new Christians,

 

you need to ask your Pastors (especially the older ones),

 

who Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon really are.

 

It is sad that many Christians growing up nowadays,

 

don’t know many of these giants of faith. 

 

These two are spiritual giants in expository preaching,

 

and they are very well-known internationally.

 

Not that they are right on every count,

 

but being very well-regarded Bible teachers,

 

must mean that they are more right than wrong.

 

Are you aware that

 

Joseph Prince spoke well of Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon

 

in his sermons and books?

 

Joseph Prince owes us an explanation to this ‘mystery’

 

– why do these 2 spiritual giants,

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon,

 

he spoke well of,

 

had concluded that his repentance teaching,

 

does not save.

 

My Parting Shot to Joseph Prince:

 

“Hey Joe, you no future, already, Lah.

 

Even those super Bible teachers

 

like Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon

 

you praised publicly, turned against you.

 

They say your repentance teaching

 

too much mind, too Chim (intellectual),

 

no feeling one, cannot save soul.

 

So many are asking, what happened?

 

How come you can praise people, publicly,

 

who sabo (tage) you.

 

A normal person won’t do that, right?

 

Anything wrong with you, or not?

 

This time, don’t act as a coward again, okay.

 

For the Founder of Hyflux case, you so coward.

 

Keep so silent, even a pin drop, cannot hear.

 

This time, come on, be a man.

 

I know you are a man, Lah,

 

but you must also act like a man, Mah.

 

So, come clean and explain this mystery

 

– why you praise Martyn Lloyd-Jones and Charles Spurgeon publicly

 

when they say your repentance teaching cannot save soul.”

 

Rev George Ong 

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