Joseph Prince’s grace results are predominantly hype – By Rev George Ong (Dated 23 May 2024)

 

Announcements:

 

The issue of whether our future sins are forgiven

 

is likely to be dealt with in detail sometime next week.

 

You are likely to hear less from me

 

come end May and the whole month of June,

 

as I have my other heavy commitments to attend to.

 

See the Appendix for the Featured YouTube comments.

 

Excerpt from the Article:

 

Joseph Prince,

 

by claiming that your grace theology

 

can have much better results

 

than the Apostle Paul (‘Apostle of grace’)

 

and Apostle John (‘Apostle of love’),

 

not only shows that you are placing yourself above them,

 

but it also exposes your arrogant pride.

 

Given the fact that New Testament churches

 

didn’t experience the kind of overwhelming transformation

 

which you claimed would,

 

even though the true message of grace and love was preached

 

by Paul, John and the other apostles,

 

the claim that your grace message (false grace)

 

is now revolutionising the world

 

is clearly overly exaggerated,

 

overblown and even feigned.

 

If true grace didn’t work wonders

 

to remove sin and strongholds

 

for the grace-saved churches in Paul’s day,

 

the claim by Joseph Prince

 

that his version of grace (false grace)

 

is now working wonders

 

and making waves around the world

 

is predominantly hype.

 

(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)

 

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to view the entire video.

 

In the sermon preached on 19 May 2024, 4 days ago,

 

Joseph Prince said;

 

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to view the 1-minute video:

 

“So actually, your future sins are all forgiven,

 

which a lot of people have problem.

 

You are teaching them licentiousness.

 

No, no, no.

 

Once they know they are forgiven much,

 

you love Him much.

 

When you love Him much,

 

you don’t want to sin.

 

How warped are you to think that,

 

you know, your wife tells you,

 

no matter what happen,

 

you go for a trip somewhere,

 

no matter what,

 

I will always love you.

 

Yepee, I can commit adultery.

 

You’re sick.”

 

Hey Joe, why are you so worked up by your critics?

 

By the choice of your words,

 

the tone of your delivery,

 

facial expressions on your face,

 

and your body language,

 

I can see that you are really angry and even mad at them.

 

Hey Joe, you forgot

 

you are supposed to be the super-grace teacher.

 

Not so gracious, Leh?

 

If you don’t model for us how one can still be gracious

 

even though people criticise you,

 

who would?

 

So, Joe, you need to cool down

 

and not get so uptight.

 

You must live up to your name

 

as the Super-grace preacher.

 

But, actually, by your outburst,

 

you have unwittingly exposed your real character.

 

Wow, another thing – Joseph Prince seems

 

to have discovered a fantastic formula

 

for the wives to ensure

 

that their husbands do not commit adultery

 

– just by saying to their husbands

 

‘I will always love you,’

 

before they embark on an overseas trip.

 

What a waste!

 

What a pure waste of talent!

 

Joseph Prince should have lived during King David’s time.

 

He would have prevented King David from committing adultery

 

just by asking David’s wife to say to him,

 

‘I will always love you.’

 

Come on, Joseph Prince

 

why do you have such a simplistic (rather deceptive) mind?

 

All of us are aware

 

that most wives do tell their husbands they love them.

 

But why are there still so many adultery cases.

 

Even well-known Pastors and Preachers commit adultery.

 

In ‘Destined to Reign’, Joseph Prince wrote:

 

“People are afraid…

 

… you will give people a license to sin.

 

The answer to sin is found in grace.

 

It is grace that will stop sin.

 

… My friend, knowing

 

that you are made God’s beloved by His grace

 

will give you dominion in life

 

to overcome sinful habits and temptations.

 

Temptations cannot succeed

 

when you have a revelation

 

that you are God’s beloved.

 

When you know how precious

 

and valuable you are to God,

 

and the depths of your Abba’s love for you,

 

why would you want to waste your life

 

engaging in sins that only bring destruction and death?”

 

From what Joseph Prince said in his sermon

 

on 19 May 2024, 4 days ago,

 

and what he wrote in ‘Destined To Reign’,

 

it is clear that he harboured

 

an overly romantic idea about grace and love,

 

and a dismissive idea about the strength of sin.

 

Hence, Joseph Prince

 

has deceptively oversold the power of grace and love

 

and deliberately underestimated the power of sin.

 

Let me explain…

 

There are many reasons why people fall into sin

 

and a varied number of factors

 

that give the eventual victory to believers

 

over their sinful habits and temptations.

 

There isn’t one rigid formula or one fixed cure

 

for the whole host of varied problems

 

that beset the people

 

with different personalities and backgrounds.

 

For some, it is prayer;

 

for others, it is the empowerment of the Holy Spirit;

 

and yet others, it is the sacrificial love that fellow believers

 

have extended to the brother who is in dire need of help.

 

Or, it could also be a combination of all the above factors,

 

plus, many others that are not mentioned

 

that were responsible for helping the particular brother

 

overcome his sinful habits.

 

But Joseph Prince has always been pushing the agenda

 

– that his grace teaching is the one rigid formula

 

that is solely responsible for helping people

 

overcome their sinful habits and temptations.

 

(That’s why Joseph Prince

 

will ensure that testimonies

 

are read during worship services

 

about the many who are helped by his grace teaching

 

with the proviso that his big name

 

must always appear and read

 

in almost every one of these testimonies.)

 

Such a view is not only self-aggrandising,

 

it is also simplistic and reductionistic.

 

Joseph Prince is simply saying he doesn’t care

 

– How much prayer the church has put in

 

interceding for the eventual victory of a brother

 

over his sinful habits.

 

– How much fasting his wife has devoted

 

to praying for her husband.

 

– How much effort the brother had put in,

 

with the help of the Holy Spirit,

 

to stay away from temptations.

 

– How much time the brother had spent

 

in seeking God for strength

 

to overcome his sinful indulgences.

 

– How much energy his pastor, who had counselled him

 

has helped him see the folly of his sinful actions. 

 

All Joseph Prince cares about

 

is that his Pseudo-grace doctrine

 

gets the sole recognition

 

as the one and only factor

 

that results in the brother’s deliverance

 

from his sinful habits. 

 

All Joseph Prince is fixated about

 

is that his Pseudo-grace theology

 

gets trumpeted to the whole world

 

as the one and only cure to every problem.

 

This is so that who gets glory in the end?

 

Not the Lord Jesus, but Joseph Prince!

  

Joseph Prince,

 

you are misleading believers

 

that all they need

 

is just a magical dose of God’s grace

 

and a mesmerising touch of God’s love,

 

and everything will fall into their rightful place.

 

You are no different from a quack doctor

 

who has oversold your grace medicine

 

and overpromised on its results.

 

If the grace-medicine is so powerful

 

that it can solve every problem,

 

why isn’t it working

 

for the grace-saved churches of Paul’s day?

 

If grace is truly so effective

 

in keeping people from sin,

 

why is it not working for the Corinthians,

 

a grace-saved church

 

who were committing grotesque sins

 

that were outrageous even to the ungodly?

 

If one were to believe that once grace is received,

 

everything will fall into place,

 

then why does Paul

 

have to deal with so many problems,

 

including sexual sins and doctrinal errors

 

in the Grace-saved churches of the New Testament?

 

Wasn’t Paul the best and true grace preacher

 

who brought the message of grace

 

to all the churches that he had been to?

 

Didn’t all the churches in New Testament scriptures

 

receive the grace teaching from Paul in its pure form,

 

unlike Joseph Prince’s brand of grace,

 

which is a massive corruption of it?

 

Yet, Paul had to deal with the horrible sexual sins of immorality

 

in the Corinthian Church

 

that even pagans do not tolerate.

 

He had to come down hard on the Galatian church

 

that was delving into the false doctrine

 

of adding circumcision to the pure gospel of grace.

 

Wasn’t John the apostle of love,

 

the one whom Jesus loved?

 

After having experienced the intimate love of the Father,

 

he must have exuded God’s love to the people

 

he was ministering to.

 

Yet, why does John have to deal with issues

 

such as hatred (opposite of love)

 

which is ‘equivalent’ to murder

 

which would disqualify a believer from heaven,

 

not only once but three times in the epistle of 1 John

 

in 1 John 2:9-11; 1 John 3:15 and 1 John 4:20?

 

If God’s love was so powerful

 

that it was working for everybody,

 

why does John have to warn believers

 

not to love the world

 

but to love God in 1 John 2:15-17?

 

If an experience of the revelation of God’s Abba love

 

can succeed in keeping a man from giving in to temptations

 

as postured by Joseph Prince,

 

why does John have to warn believers

 

about the reality and stronghold of sin

 

in 1 John 1:8-9; 1 John 2:1-2; 1 John 3:4-10

 

and 1 John 5:16-17.

 

No one will deny the power of God’s love and His grace

 

to deliver man from sin and bondage

 

(the first half of the truth which Joseph Prince did tell us).

 

But man is still finally responsible

 

for how he would respond to God

 

– and God will never violate his free will

 

even if it is exercised to his own detriment and damnation

 

(the second half of the truth which Joseph Prince has kept hidden from us).

 

There would be those

 

who would respond in devotion

 

to God’s wonderful grace

 

and unsurpassed love,

 

and we praise God for that.

 

But there would also be those

 

who would stubbornly choose to go their own way.

 

If what Joseph Prince said

 

that all the world and the church need

 

is an experience of God’s grace and love

 

(to be accurate,

 

his false grace theology of grace and love)

 

is true,

 

the whole world would be won twice over by now,

 

and great revivals that would transform lives

 

would be the order of the day in the church.

 

Despite the fact that God has shown His matchless grace

 

and His incomparable love through His very own Son

 

through His inhumane sufferings

 

and horrible death on the cross,

 

for the last 2,000 years,

 

much of the world is still hardening their hearts

 

by rejecting His love and grace.

 

Joseph Prince,

 

by claiming that your grace theology

 

can have much better results

 

than the Apostle Paul (‘Apostle of grace’)

 

and Apostle John (‘Apostle of love’),

 

not only shows that you are placing yourself above them,

 

but it also exposes your arrogant pride.

 

Given the fact that New Testament churches

 

didn’t experience the kind of overwhelming transformation

 

which you claimed would,

 

even though the true message of grace and love was preached

 

by Paul, John and the other apostles,

 

the claim that your grace message (false grace)

 

is now revolutionising the world

 

is clearly overly exaggerated,

 

overblown and even feigned.

 

If true grace didn’t work wonders

 

to remove sin and strongholds

 

for the grace-saved churches in Paul’s day,

 

the claim by Joseph Prince

 

that his version of grace (false grace)

 

is now working wonders

 

and making waves around the world

 

is predominantly hype.

 

“Grace is not an all-cure pill for every sickness of every man but just one in a compendium of medicines to deal with the range of illnesses of all mankind.” (George Ong)

 

“While all of us should be Pro-grace and none of us Anti-grace, Joseph Prince is Super-grace – over-selling a grace-pill that can remove all sicknesses and over-promoting a grace-formula which can solve all problems.” (George Ong)

 

Rev George Ong

 

Appendix

 

Featured YouTube comments:

 

@tanjason2640

 

“Years ago – more than 10 years ago

 

when I was attending New Creation Church,

 

Joseph Prince said new covenant believers

 

do not need to fast;

 

along with many of his personal doctrines

 

which always do not conform

 

to the whole counsel of God’s word.

 

Why are people so drawn to hear his crap?

 

And why does the church council choose to remain silent?

 

Errors must be corrected.”

 

@thng9170

 

“For those who are still listening to Joseph Prince preach,

 

l pray that God will open your spiritual eyes and ears.

 

This man’s words are binding your spirit

 

and you have not been set free from sin.

 

These damages are not immediately seen in real life.

 

But l pray that God will reveal them to you in time to come.

 

And you will be able to flee away from this man.”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“It is clear that Joseph Prince is a heretic double talker

 

who will not stop preaching lies and heresies.

 

So, reserve our energy,

 

but never give up the fight against heresies.

 

It will be a long battle

 

(between truth and heresies, humility and pride,

 

and passion for truth and hypocrisy for self-glory).

 

However, this website will also be a rare platform (like a ‘gem’)

 

that is raised by God to shine, mirror, and reveal

 

what is truly in our hearts

 

when we’ve learnt what is the truth and lie,

 

so that we know that God is just to judge

 

(regardless of whether we are the liars, like Joseph Prince,

 

or the disciples of Jesus Christ):

 

2 Thess 2:9-17 KJV 

 

I believe that this Bible passage in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-17

 

is written for the ‘battle’ and for us.

 

If there are no heretics like Joseph Prince,

 

we will not need this.

 

However, if there are heretics like Joseph Prince,

 

we will have God’s people like Rev George.

 

If there are delusive channels like Joseph Prince Ministries,

 

we will have Rev George’s channel for the truth.

 

In a such time like this,

 

God will send STRONG DELUSION to those who love lies;

 

but to those who resist and fight against heresies

 

because of their love for the truth,

 

God will send CONSOLATION and GOOD HOPE,

 

especially in the end time or difficult time.”

 

@DvdLTW

 

“I pray that those in New Creation Church

 

whether in the position of leadership, servers, or congregation

 

(some of my dear brothers and sisters are still there)

 

to open up their ears and eyes to hear and see

 

what this IMPOSTOR is mouthing week in and week out.

 

The only preaching that Joseph Prince

 

is consistent about

 

is being CONsistently InCONsistent!”

 

@glennfong984

 

“We won’t have this problem

 

if we can recognize that the Old Covenant saints

 

are all saved by faith too.

 

And in the Old Covenant, believers obey God’s Laws,

 

which is actually the same as New Covenant believers!

 

All are saved by faith,

 

and faith causes us to walk in God’s Laws!”

 

@mayumshe54

 

“Can see that the New Creation Church preaching

 

is anti-Christ?

 

Denying the Lord.

 

Does Joseph Prince not know?

 

Prince just loves to be in the high places,

 

honoured by men.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“You got it right.

 

New Creation Church is promoting Antichrist teachings

 

via Joseph Prince.

 

That’s why it’s best to get out of New Creation Church

 

as soon as possible before it’s too late.”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“When a preacher is a double talker,

 

he will bring you around his ‘wilderness’.

 

He will bring you round and round

 

and round and round and round and ..

 

.. until you are exhausted.

 

And when you are exhausted,

 

he will come up with even more heresies.

 

So, be wise when dealing with crafty character

 

who does not have integrity with words.

 

His ‘principle’ is to use any words

 

that come to his mind to win arguments

 

and make people think that

 

he is still the very ‘anointed’ one.

 

So, he won’t feel any guilt

 

even if he needs to twist God’s words

 

or make use of God’s words

 

to levitate himself over others.

 

So, I foresee it is not going to be an easy task

 

to expose his endless heresies and arrogant philosophies.

 

However, I can tell from his recent preaching of heresies

 

that he no longer enjoys the same confidence or pride

 

over his heresies like before.

 

He begins to ‘look’ worried

 

that he might not be able to attract

 

as many people to himself as before.

 

Rev George Ong, keep it up.”

 

@user-hd7qv8dx7x

 

“Jesus didn’t say, God in heaven.

 

He said, Father or Daddy in heaven.

 

That speaks of intimacy, not distance.

 

Joseph Prince likes to twist and turn the scriptures.”

 

@mayumshe54

 

“In the church,

 

as long as you preached grace, super grace,

 

you can preach whatever nonsense

 

to make the believers feel good.”

 

@christopherloh936

 

“Theatrical and an entertaining preacher

 

but misrepresents the Bible.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“Joseph Prince is misrepresenting the Jesus of the Bible. 

 

Instead, he is manifesting anti-Christ teachings

 

in New Creation Church.”

 

@matreen427

 

“The moment Joseph Prince says,

 

‘there’s nothing wrong

 

with praying the Lord’s prayer’,

 

seems to be posturing that it is a bad thing.”

 

@edmundsim6251

 

“I am dumbfounded

 

when I hear of the negativism

 

that Joseph Prince said about the Lord’s prayer

 

cos’ I need to say my Lord’s prayer almost daily.”

 

@user-vo3iy4ur6d

 

“Is that all Joseph Prince can say about the Lord’s prayer?

 

It belies his hypocrisy.

 

He didn’t believe what he was saying actually

 

…you can see it, you can hear it, you can perceive it.”

 

Note these 2 comments are a critique of my website:

 

@huios974

 

“Can’t believe a reverend cannot understand simple things

 

that Joseph Prince is trying to relate in both scenarios.

 

To all readers, remember the word of God that says

 

God will blind those whose hearts are not right.

 

Those who are vile let them continue to be vile.

 

All who follow this channel and are in agreement,

 

my advice is to repent before you see wrath of God.”

 

@charlesmisong6602

 

“I agree with you, Rev Ong is wasting his time

 

sharing worthless accusations.

 

It seems like he’s very obsessed with Joseph Prince.”

 

These are the comments of those

 

who wrote against the above 2 critics:

 

@vijayrem-mn6id

 

“If you think this channel is prejudiced,

 

you can always watch other world channels

 

poking holes in Joseph Prince’s teaching.

 

Personally, I have checked Joseph Prince’s teachings

 

against the Bible and other biblical resources.

 

Joseph Prince’s teachings make you feel good,

 

comfortable and easy with God.

 

It does not inculcate a sense of awe

 

and reverence towards God.

 

That kind of easy, fluffy preaching

 

explains why many are drawn to him.

 

Its chock-a-block with poor logic, contradictions,

 

half-truths, twisted verses and omissions.”

 

@DvdLTW

 

“@huios974 from your username,

 

I can tell you have learned some Greek words from Joseph Prince

 

as he has taught about ‘huios’

 

in some of his ‘eloquent’ sermons before.

 

May I request for you to show me kindly

 

what simple things that Joseph Prince

 

are trying to relate in these sermons?

 

The simplest of things here are (and it’s so obviously clear)

 

that Joseph Prince

 

is teaching one thing at one time

 

and then teaching completely the opposite thing

 

at another time.

 

Are you able to relate to the hypocrisies and heresies?

 

Or you’re just not willing?”

 

@alfredchoo2470

 

“I had once attended New Creation Church

 

for a short while

 

and I can tell you that Joseph Prince’s preaching

 

creates a sense of spiritual pride in me.

 

I asked the Holy Spirit for discernment

 

and the clear message I got

 

was to leave the church

 

and unlearn what Joseph Prince had taught.

 

I obeyed, and over the years,

 

I knew exactly what was wrong.

 

Also, Pastor George Ong’s videos were very helpful.

 

To all New Creation Church die-hard fans,

 

start looking to the Holy Spirit

 

for discernment and guidance

 

and not depend on Joseph Prince to be fed.”

 

@Matrixqc777

 

“If, your eternal destiny (Heaven or Hell)

 

will be determined by what you believe,

 

{not just the “Who” you believe – 2 Cor.11:4

 

– you could be believing in ‘another Jesus,

 

another gospel, and another spirit’}

 

and, what you do;

 

wouldn’t you be concerned about yourself

 

and for other fellow believers?”

 

@vijayrem-mn6id 

 

“@charlesmisong6602

 

Listen to other world channels on him.

 

Don’t just listen to him.

 

Free your mind. 

 

Otherwise, you will be indoctrinated.

 

It’s your choice to believe him completely,

 

to love him through and through,

 

to let your dollar flow copiously in his direction.”

 

@edmundsim6251

 

“Can you relate and give an example?

 

And, also give an example

 

how do you ignore the Lord’s Prayer

 

to get very personal with God the Father?

 

You ought to give some examples

 

instead of saying God will blind those

 

whose hearts are not right

 

if you feel that Joseph Prince is right in his teaching.

 

Or you are unable to?”

 

Note this is a critique of my website:

 

@xiangkexin4086

 

“No one is perfect

 

The way he preached so lovely and cute.

 

George Ong, if you are so right,

 

you should go and preach in a big Church

 

like Joseph Prince.”

 

These are the comments of those

 

who wrote against the above critic:

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“… The way he preached so lovely and cute.”

 

Oh dear….is this what you’re looking for

 

from a pastor in a church?”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

JESUS teaches people how to get TRUE LIFE:

 

Matthew 7:13-14

[13] ‘Go in through the narrow gate to get true life with God.

 

There is a wide gate that is easy to go through.

 

The wide path is easy to travel on.

 

Many people find that wide gate,

 

but it is the way to hell.

 

[14] It is difficult to go through the small gate.

 

And it is difficult to walk on the narrow road.

 

But when you do go that way, you will get true life.

 

Not many people find that narrow gate.’”

 

@user-iu3dm5qk7p

 

“Oh fren, don’t mislead yourself

 

by saying no one is perfect.

 

Dig a little deeper.

 

Thats why it’s said a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

 

You can’t see the wolf; you see only the sheep.

 

Obviously, you have been seduced

 

and have not really checked the Bible and other resources.

 

Don’t be seduced by the sight of a large crowd.

 

Bear in mind what Charles Spurgeon says,

 

‘That very church which the world likes best

 

is sure to be that which God abhors.’”

 

@DvdLTW

 

“@xiangkexin4086

 

None is perfect, you’re correct.

 

The way Joseph Prince preaches

 

may be lovely and cute.

 

However, the question is,

 

do you listen to Joseph Prince’s lovely and cute sermons

 

to save you or entertain you?

 

Friend, it’s does not matter

 

if George Ong or Joseph Prince is right;

 

it’s who is sharing the Biblical Truth.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“You should be asking

 

if the teachings have helped you

 

to know Christ and serve Christ biblically. 

 

God will be looking for fruits in your life.”

 

@Matrixqc777

 

“George Ong if you are so right,

 

you should go and preach in a big Church

 

like Joseph Prince.”

 

Xiang kexin @xiangkexin4086

 

– don’t you know it only took a shepherd boy

 

to kill Goliath?”

 

@yloivsined9846

 

“It’s so sad reading comments

 

such as this.” 

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