Joseph Prince’s ‘God cannot send sickness doctrine’ is discredited by Martin Luther, AW Tozer & Michael Brown – By Rev George Ong (Dated 16 Jan 2024)

 

Announcement:

 

Last Sunday, 2 days ago,

 

Joseph Prince unveiled the theme for 2024,

 

‘The Year of Living in the Upper Room,’

 

for New Creation Church.

 

But as I listened to this sermon,

 

I discovered so many rubbish and lies

 

that came out Joseph Prince’s mouth,

 

which I am determined to reveal

 

in at least 2 more articles, to be released,

 

hopefully, before this week is over or next week. 

 

Excerpt from this Article:

 

Joseph Prince,

 

you must stop quoting Martin Luther in your sermons anymore,

 

which you do once in a while.

 

Remember, you cannot fool me

 

as I listen to your sermons every time.

 

Not that I enjoy it,

 

but it really is a pain in the neck

 

to listen to you churning out rubbish after rubbish

 

almost every Sunday.

 

If not for my calling, I will never do it.

 

Joseph Prince, I’ll tell why quoting Martin Luther in your sermons

 

doesn’t do you any help.

 

As you are aware,

 

I have surfaced many quotes of Martin Luther,

 

in many of the articles on my website 

 

Almost all of Luther’s quotes on my website

 

contradicted your Grace doctrine.

 

So, there’s no need for you to bluff your way around

 

by quoting Martin Luther in your sermons,

 

as it would only make you look like a clown.

 

(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)

  

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to view the entire video.

 

In a Sunday sermon aired on YouTube 2 days ago,

 

on 14 Jan 2024, Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click to view the 1-minute-and-15-seconds video:

 

“As a natural father, if a child is sick,

 

I don’t care what doctrine he has.

 

Perhaps, some of you, you come from different places, or you read,

 

or were exposed to teachings

 

that says that sometimes sickness is God’s will.

 

But isn’t it amazing how it doesn’t really carry out in our daily life if our child is sick?

 

Regardless of what we believe,

 

we’ll bring our child to the doctor. Why?

 

We want the child to be well.

 

That’s the father’s heart.

 

That’s the mother’s heart.

 

That the child be well.

 

Then all of a sudden,

 

we don’t even want to stop and ask,

 

is it God’s will for my child to be sick?

 

Other children maybe. My child, no. Amen.

 

We don’t realise that we are contradicting what we believe.

 

No, my friend, this teaching that God wants you sick

 

is not from the Bible.

 

When Jesus taught us, thy kingdom come,

 

thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

 

There is no sickness in heaven.

 

And that prayer is to pray that God’s will in heaven

 

happen on earth.

 

No sickness there, no sickness here.”

 

Going by Joseph Prince’s logic,

 

No sickness there (heaven), no sickness here (earth),

 

can one also argue

 

“No marriage there (heaven), no marriage here (earth).

 

No sex there (heaven), no sex here (earth).

 

No death there (heaven), no death here (earth).

 

No sea there (heaven), no sea here (earth).

 

So, by Joseph Prince’s logic

 

this means we must have no marriage, no sex, no sea,

 

and start raising everyone from the dead

 

so that there’s no death on earth.

 

Preposterous!  

 

Joseph Prince,

 

you Malu (disgrace), right!

 

Bo Bin (humiliated), right!

 

Where is your logic?

 

I don’t know where you gonna hide your face.

 

You must repent, not only from your heresies

 

but also from the stupidity of your teaching.

 

If Joseph Prince can’t even get his basic logic right,

 

he has no business to delve into Bible exegesis and doctrines.

 

In an interview, Michael Brown said;

 

Please click to view the 1-minute-15-seconds video:

 

“It will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

 

So, there’s a teaching that’s become very popular today.

 

To say how do you know what’s God’s will is for the earth.

 

Well, look at His will in heaven.

 

Is there sickness in heaven?

 

No.

 

Well, there shouldn’t be sickness on earth.

 

Therefore, we pray for the sick.

 

Is there depression in heaven?

 

No.

 

Therefore, we pray for freedom and liberty and healing

 

for those who are depressed.

 

But Jesus is not saying the way things are in heaven

 

is the way things are supposed to be on earth

 

as if that’s a universal state.

 

Biblical logic will tell you

 

it doesn’t mean well the way things are in heaven,

 

that’s exactly what’s supposed to be on earth.

 

For example, there’s no sex in heaven

 

So, should all married couples stopped being together?

 

That’s it.

 

There’s no sex in heaven.

 

Is that what it means?

 

What about evangelism?

 

There’re no lost souls to be saved in heaven,

 

so, we ceased evangelism?

 

There’s no death in heaven.

 

So, should we try to resurrect all the dead all the time,

 

and as often as they die, we keep trying to raise them up.

 

So, what does it mean

 

it will be done on earth as it is in heaven?

 

The same way your will is carried out in heaven,

 

perfectly without hindrance,

 

may it be carried out on earth.

 

That’s what it means.”

 

Michael Brown’s lengthier article on the above

 

is featured in the Appendix

 

at the end of this article, Article 2,

 

and before Article 3.

 

Second, let me deal with the first and greater half

 

of what Joseph Prince said.

 

All that Joseph Prince said

 

is just a smoke screen to hide and deflect

 

from the basic disagreement between him and his critics:

 

Can God send sickness to believers?

 

He said no, and we said yes.

 

This sickness issue has nothing to do with the fact

 

that his critics wouldn’t want their child to be well

 

when he or she is sick.

 

These are irrelevant issues

 

that Joseph Prince has churned out to insult his critics

 

– that they are like terrible parents

 

who want their child to be sick. 

 

It is Joseph Prince’s typical strategy of using a strawman

 

to deliberately misrepresent his critics’ stand,

 

and to cloud the issue

 

so that we miss the forest for the trees.

 

The real issue, whether our children are well or sick,

 

and regardless of every parent’s wish

 

that their child would be well,

 

the key question remains,

 

Can God send sickness to believers?

 

Of course, He can.

 

Let me feature what AW Tozer and Martin Luther have to say:

 

In ‘Reclaiming Christianity, A Call to Authentic Faith,’ 

 

AW Tozer wrote:

 

“The churches believed through the centuries

 

that the Lord sometimes chastens His people 

 

by letting illness happen to them.

 

You will find that in 1 Corinthians 11:27-34 (Holy Communion),

 

and you will find much else in the Scriptures 

 

that would teach the same thing.”

 

What AW Tozer wrote

 

has demolished Joseph Prince’s stand

 

that God cannot send sickness to believers.

 

In ‘Sermons of Martin Luther Vol. 5,’ 

 

Martin Luther said:

 

“For if I love God, I love also his will.

 

Now, when God sends us sickness,

 

poverty, shame and disgrace,

 

that is his will.”

 

What Martin Luther said

 

that it can be God’s will to send sickness to us,

 

directly contradicts Joseph Prince’s teaching on healing.

 

Anyone who is aware that

 

Martin Luther, the founder and leader of the Reformation

 

had discredited Joseph Prince’s teachings ‘countless’ times,

 

and still chooses to attend New Creation Church

 

and listen to his teachings,

 

must be a fool.

 

Joseph Prince,

 

you must stop quoting Martin Luther in your sermons anymore,

 

which you do once in a while.

 

Remember, you cannot fool me

 

as I listen to your sermons every time.

 

Not that I enjoy it,

 

but it really is a pain in the neck

 

to listen to you churning out rubbish after rubbish

 

almost every Sunday.

 

If not for my calling, I will never do it.

 

Joseph Prince, I’ll tell why quoting Martin Luther in your sermons

 

doesn’t do you any help.

 

As you are aware,

 

I have surfaced many quotes of Martin Luther,

 

in many of the articles on my website 

 

Almost all of Luther’s quotes on my website

 

contradicted your Grace doctrine.

 

So, there’s no need for you to bluff your way around

 

by quoting Martin Luther in your sermons,

 

as it would only make you look like a clown.

 

Finally, another simple question one needs to answer:

 

Do you trust Martin Luther, AW Tozer and Michael Brown,

 

who are proven and well-regarded Bible teachers,

 

or Joseph Prince, the serial liar?

 

The answer is obvious!

 

Rev George Ong

 

Appendix to Article 2

 

Article by Michael Brown, titled:

 

The Real Meaning of ‘On Earth as it is in Heaven’

 

“We’re all familiar with the words of Jesus when He instructed us to pray,

 

“Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven” (Matthew 6:10).

 

But what exactly did He mean?

 

According to a popular teaching today,

 

Jesus was saying that we should pray that the way things are in heaven

 

is the way they should be on the earth.

 

Put another way, we can deduce God’s will for the earth

 

by looking at His will for heaven.

 

Is there sickness in heaven?

 

Absolutely not.

 

Consequently, there should be no sickness on earth.

 

Is there depression in heaven?

 

Absolutely not.

 

Consequently, there should be no depression on earth.

 

But is this what Jesus was actually teaching?

 

To be perfectly clear,

 

I believe that healing and health are God’s ideal will for His people,

 

based on the teaching of Scripture.

 

And so, when I pray for someone who is sick

 

– especially for a sick believer

 

… Yet I do not believe that Matthew 6:10 is being rightly interpreted,

 

and it’s important we not misapply the Lord’s words.

 

Simple logic would tell you that Jesus was not saying,

 

“Pray that things on earth today

 

will be exactly as they are in heaven.”

 

For example, there is no sexual intercourse in heaven.

 

Does that mean that all married couples should stop being together?

 

Is that what we’re praying when we say,

 

“Lord, may Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven”?

 

What about evangelism?

 

There is no evangelism in heaven

 

because there are no lost souls in heaven.

 

Are we therefore praying,

 

“Lord, may all evangelism cease on earth

 

in order to replicate what takes place in heaven”?

 

What about the trying of our faith?

 

Presumably, there are no faith trials for believers in heaven,

 

but they are designed for our growth here on earth.

 

Should we pray instead,

 

“Lord, may we never go through any trials for the rest of our lives

 

since there are no trials in heaven”?

 

And what about death?

 

Ultimately, in the future age of the new heavens and the new earth, there will be no death.

 

Until then, death is the final reality for every human being.

 

But if we’re trying to replicate heaven on earth,

 

doesn’t that mean that we should raise every person from the dead

 

– not just once, but endlessly?

 

Perhaps, there is no sleep in heaven.

 

Should we therefore teach,

 

“Because there’s no sleep in heaven,

 

there should be no sleep on earth”?

 

Again, simple, Bible-based logic

 

tells you that this is not what Jesus was teaching.

 

Instead, He taught us to pray that just as God’s will is done in heaven

 

– perfectly and completely and without resistance

 

– His will should be carried out here on earth.

 

And how do we determine what His will is?

 

By studying His Word and asking Him for insight and understanding.

 

When we do that,

 

we see that He has called us to heal the sick,

 

to set the captives free,

 

to bring good news to the lost.

 

We learn that He has anointed us to bring hope to the hopeless,

 

joy to the downtrodden, victory to the defeated.

 

His will is glorious and wonderful and liberating.

 

His will reflects His heart and His character.

 

His will brings life and deliverance and freedom.

 

And we look forward to the day

 

when His will and His desires

 

will be carried out perfectly and in full here on earth.

 

At the same time,

 

the day will come when it will be His will

 

to pour out wrath and judgment on a sinning, unrepentant world. 

 

(This is taught throughout the New Testament.

 

It is not just an Old Testament theme.)

 

And when we pray for His kingdom to come

 

and His will to be done, we are praying for that as well.

 

In fact, whenever we say,

 

“Maranatha! Even so, come, Lord Jesus!”

 

we are praying for the Son of God to return “in flaming fire,

 

inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God

 

and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus” (2 Thessalonians 1:8).

 

This puts a whole new perspective on praying,

 

“May Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.”

 

To say it once more,

 

I believe that praying that prayer emboldens us to preach and to heal in Jesus’ name.

 

I believe that praying that prayer

 

helps drive back the powers of darkness in the here and now,

 

along with paving the way for the final manifestation of God’s kingdom.

 

And I believe that in the end,

 

the order and atmosphere and will of heaven

 

will be the only thing we experience – forever.

 

Let’s just not misapply the Lord’s words today.

 

That can lead to some silly,

 

if not dangerous, assumptions and misapplications.

 

We should avoid them as much as we can.

 

Certainly, that is our Father’s will.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

My parting shot to Joseph Prince is,

 

don’t be silly in your Bible teaching and application

 

as Michael Brown has warned.

 

Time for you to grow up! 

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