Joseph Prince’s gift of knowledge is mere guesswork
– By Rev George Ong (Dated 13 May 2024)
See the Appendix for the YouTube comments.
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
Most Sundays that Joseph Prince is preaching,
including yesterday on 12 May 2024,
he exercised his so-called gift of knowledge
– there is this person with pain in his shoulder
and God has already healed
and that person who has knee problem
that God would take care of.
All of us know that there are thousands or even millions
who watch Joseph Prince’s sermons.
So, there are plenty of people
out of thousands or millions
with the same pain in the shoulder
that Joseph Prince was referring to.
All that Joseph Prince needed
to prove that he has the gift of knowledge and healing
is just one of the plenty with pain in his or her shoulders,
to acknowledge that he was healed.
But that person who was healed (assuming it is true)
is often out of the true grace of God
and not because of Joseph Prince’s gift of knowledge.
But what about the many others with pain in the shoulders
who aren’t healed?
Is God not referring to them, too?
What is worse is
they may even think that God is referring to them
through Joseph Prince’s gift of knowledge,
and if they eventually discovered that they aren’t healed,
they may get angry with God
and may even leave the Christian Faith.
To prevent that terrible thing from happening,
Joseph Prince is responsible to,
and if Joseph Prince really claimed
to have the gift of knowledge and healing,
he must be more specific
about his gift of knowledge or prophecy.
He must say there is someone
with pain in his shoulder,
and God will heal him,
and his name is John Tan.
So, all others with the same affliction of shoulder pain,
who isn’t named John Tan,
would know God isn’t referring to them
through Joseph Prince’s so-called gift of knowledge.
If John Tan is, indeed, healed,
this would remove all doubt
that Joseph Prince is not making mere guesses,
but he is exercising the gift of knowledge and healing.
I have been watching
Joseph Prince exercising his so-called gift of knowledge
in plenty of his sermons for many years,
but I have never heard him a single time,
mentioning a specific name
that that person would be healed.
Naming names would remove all doubt
that Joseph Prince is not making mere guesses
– that what he said about someone with pain in his shoulders
is referring to a specific individual
out of the many with the same problem.
Do you know why Joseph Prince
wouldn’t dare to name names?
He knows he would get it wrong
and that would straightaway expose him
for his fraudulent claim.
Based on his teaching,
Joseph Prince has no excuse
not to have this extra gift of knowledge of naming names
that God would grant to him.
This is because he teaches
that we will get what we want
if we just speak out our desires.
In a sermon on 14 Apr 2024,
Joseph Prince said (Matt 21:21; Mk 11:23)
“So, when you speak against it in the name of Jesus,
Jesus says, ‘I will do it.’
We emphasise believe so much.
Oh, because I don’t have enough faith.
I don’t have enough faith.
But Jesus emphasised talking.
Jesus didn’t say you will have what you want.
He says you will have what you say.
He shall have whatsoever he say,
He did not say you will have what you desire
He says he shall have whatsoever he say.”
In another sermon, Joseph Prince said;
“Many of you believe the right things now.
But are you saying it.
‘In my heart I believe, Pastor.’
It’s not enough.
The spirit of faith, I believe,
therefore, I spoke.
Speak it out. Speak it out. Speak it out.”
So, Joseph Prince teaches
that once we say or speak out our desires,
Jesus will grant that to us.
If that is the case,
why can’t Joseph Prince speak out his desire,
‘I want to have the gift of knowledge
of knowing the names of people,
I prophesied about healing.’
And God would have to grant it to him.
So, Joseph Prince has no excuse
not to have the additional knowledge
of knowing the names of the people, he prophesied.
Or what he taught about speaking out your desires
for it to become a reality
is a farce.
In conclusion, Joseph Prince so-called gift of knowledge
is mere guesswork
that is calculated to con the masses.
Rev George Ong
Appendix
Featured YouTube comments:
@kengoppingoppin
“Wow. So many aggrieved precious people on this channel.
Apparently, quite a number must have felt
they have been grievously deceived or misled.
They must have realised it
at some considerable cost to themselves,
either in time, or money, or effort.
This man, Prince, is quite a flamboyant guy.
From his sermons,
he appears to be preaching
some dream-like gospel of Irrational Exuberance
– you are always victorious,
you can have what you say,
you have it all settled in life,
the road to heaven is broad, etc.
Understandably, that kind of teaching
will only lead to disillusionment
among its members as a matter of course.”
@cutecuteoldold
“Joseph Prince sees himself as a performer.
Reality is he neither preaches
(he spews whatever he wants)
nor performs
(we are not entertained).”
@lindsaylim5806
“A time will come when instead of shepherds feeding the sheep, the church will have clowns entertaining the goats”
– Charles H. Spurgeon
Joseph Prince is the modern-day clown
and New Creation Church is made up of mainly goats.
Only the rare few who have been awakened
and left New Creation Church,
as well as a few more who will be awakened in the future
and leave the church.
are considered sheep.”
@LuiSieh
“The Church today
do not emphasize the sanctification aspect of salvation.
Today people want an instant 3-in-1 version of their faith
by adding water and get immediate results.
It is not as your teaching (Rev George Ong) shows.
It’s a lifelong journey with the Lord,
a continuous process and effort.
We know the analogy of the race
that Paul and others uses to instruct us.
1 Corinthians 9:24-27; Hebrews 12:1-2;
Matthew 24:13 ;2 Timothy 4:7; Galatians 5:7.
This is why one of my Bible teachers
used to always ask us,
is your salvation assured?
How do we know? Amen.”
@ogosmatt2498
“Satan is his god.
Joseph Prince won’t repent
because of his pride…. and vanity…”
@edmundsim6251
Joseph Prince should build a proper church for the Lord God.
If the stage is used for LGBTQ
and then used to worship the lord,
it really sounds wrong, very wrong,
as it is detestable in the eyes of the Lord God.”
@ronpinngapinnga
“My! Apparently quite a number, men and women,
seem to have their hearts captured
by this flamboyant guy, the prince (Joseph Prince).
This is a deep psychological problem.
It is known that people who have been beguiled
do not know – or refuse to recognise
– that they have been beguiled.
This reminds us of the case of a Japanese woman
who continually gave so much to a cult
as to deny her son a decent education.
It’s concerning to wonder
whether the same thing will ever happen to anyone
whose heart is so devotedly bound to Joseph Prince.
Let’s not forget what Paul says:
“But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever” 1 Tim 5:8 ESV
Strong words…”worse than an unbeliever”
@WordsofGodThe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXfXnJOYRvA&t=41s
“After watching how Joseph Prince did the stunt again,
sometimes I wonder,
Is he really an ‘anointed’ pastor or actor?
Obviously, he has entered the wrong ‘career’
when he so passionately ‘packaged’ himself
as a Bruce Lee, Elvis Presley, or Michael Jackson.
If he just wants to package himself as a ‘superstar’
with his hair, clothing, shoes, or dances,
he should never come to the church
and ‘play around’ with God’s words.
Sometimes, I wonder if he really knows the Bible.
Does he know that both Paul and Peter were not ‘superstars’?
They were both Apostles who wrote the Bible,
and were the disciples of the same Lord?
However, Joseph Prince preached and talked about them
as if they were enemies teaching different doctrine:
as if Paul was a grace preacher
whilst Peter was a law preacher or Pharisee.
However, actually Paul was a justification preacher
and Peter was a sanctification preacher,
and the doctrine of Christ would not be complete
without teaching from both of them.
Yes, Peter seemed to be ‘work’ oriented.
However, the Bible never says that ‘work’
is always evil or self-effort FOR SALVATION;
no, on the contrary,
the Bible says that ‘work’ can be good effort after salvation
(which is FOR SANCTIFICATION).”
@tanky815
“Yes, this is what I detest
when I attended New Creation Church;
why he had to do that?
This is not cute. Stick to the Bible, Lah.”
@joyceliew4352
“Thank you, Rev Ong, for teaching The Word accordingly
and we ourselves also read and study what you’ve taught,
following the example of the Bereans of the Bible.
Joseph Prince showed us 1 John 2:19,
teaching as loud as he could, with his dramatic moves,
thinking that way will cause all to believe his explanations.
I wonder why didn’t he dare to show/explain more
from this verse in Greek
to prove he is teaching according to The Word.
I finally saw it through of Joseph Prince’s tactics and deceptions
in the area where he would
or would not explain in Greek or Hebrew in his preaching.
Those scriptures about wealth and health,
he for sure, would explain it very clearly
by using Greek/Hebrew
in order to prove God’s Word is true.
But when it comes to sanctification and commandments,
he will never dare to show us in Greek or Hebrew.
Even the wealth and health part,
Joseph Prince would only show part of the verses
and never dare to show the whole passage.
After we are saved by grace through faith,
it is clearly written in the Bible
that we need to work out our Salvation.
Did Joseph Prince dare to explain it in Greek
in order to give clear understanding?
Nop!
As long as when it comes to “works”, “fruit bearing”,
“make every efforts” … kind of teachings,
Joseph Prince would throw it out the window
by telling us these are not applicable to us
because we are no longer under the law but grace!
We just believe and rest.
Even Joseph Prince’s teaching
on what does it mean by under the law is also wrong!
Please do go and find out in Galatians 5
(read the entire chapter 5
and you will understand
what does it mean to be under the law).
Believing doesn’t mean that no physical actions are to follow
with the help of Holy Spirit in us.
Of course, the doing part will be a dreadful chore
if we have become carnal believers due to deceptions.
No wonder God wants us to love and follow Him
with all our hearts, souls and minds.
God wants all of us and not just part of us!
Either we worship God Him alone,
or we worship Baa (other gods) completely.
Therefore, we all have to choose
and there’s no middle ground.”
@WordsofGodThe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXfXnJOYRvA&t=41s
“Yes, I really understand.
Actually, when he does this,
he has lost control of himself and he knows it.
It’s because of his past involvement with spiritism or occultism.
It is clearly not a manifestation of the Holy Spirit
on the pulpit of God; but a false spirit, familiar spirit,
or evil spirit which is ‘planted’ to mock at God.
Sometimes, you can literally see he sings or dances
like Elvis Presley or Michael Jackson or Bee Gees
who were deceased.
Sometimes, you wonder
why the spirits can just fall on him so easily
and make him do the most incredible ‘stunts’
of singing and dancing on the stage?
It is surely something that is ‘supernatural’,
but we know that it is not from God.”
Note this is a critique of my website:
@Dawatawat
”Acts of the Apostles 5:39 NLT
[39] But if it is from God, you will not be able to overthrow them.
You may even find yourselves fighting against God!”
These are the comments of those
who wrote against the above critic:
@ronpinngapinnga
“My dear friends,
don’t believe everything you hear.
Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you.
Not everyone who talks about God (or Christ)
comes from God.
There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world”
1 John 4:1 The Message.”
@user-vo3iy4ur6d
“This is said by Gamaliel in Acts 5:39, not God.
He disappeared from Acts after saying it
while today many false preachers and teachers are still alive
and spewing out more and more
outlandish false teachings and prophecies
going from bad to worse,
and have great and growing following;
and there are more people on the Broadway
than narrow way.”
Note this is a critique of my website:
@gabrielaorantes1876
“Rev George Ong,
if you are a true preacher/messenger of GOD,
why don’t you use your time to preach the Gospel Of God
instead of attacking another preacher.
Eph 5:16
New Heart English Bible
“redeeming the time, because the days are evil.”
A lot of people need to hear the words of God for them
to have a true transformation.”
These are the comments of those
who wrote against the above critic:
@edmundsim6251
“My friend, you are mistaken.
Joseph Prince isn’t a preacher
but he is a satanic teacher.
Rev George Ong is trying to save Christians
from the pits of fire.
Joseph Prince is plainly teaching another type of gospel.
While Jesus and his apostles are preaching
“Repent! Repent! For the Kingdom of God is near”,
Joseph Prince is teaching New Creation Church
how to be like Lucifer before his fall; the Pride,
the need to exalt himself above God,
to place self above God, no repentance, no submissive,
no tribulation to strengthen the spirits,
treating God more like a steward or servant
than to be humbled before God.
This is Satanic Teachings, period!”
@lindsaylim5806
@edmundsim6251
Yes, Joseph Prince is not a child of God.
He belongs to his Master ($atan)
and is carrying out his bidding.”
@lindsaylim5806
“How can Joseph Prince be a believer
when he has the audacity
to add and subtract from God’s Words?
Deuteronomy 4:2 ESV
[2] You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you.
Revelation 22:18-19 ESV
[18] I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, [19] and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
@joyceliew4352
“Beloved, you said it rightly
where you encourage Rev Ong to use his time
to preach the gospel of God
which he is doing now.
Not only Rev Ong uses his time to preach The Word
but also to warn those who has been deceived.
We thank God for Rev Ong’s boldness
to tell the truths even though only a remnant would listen.
Now, whenever a teacher is preaching The Truth Gospel,
those who are also preaching The Truth Gospel
shouldn’t be offended UNLESS they weren’t!
How do we know who is teaching The Truth?
The Bible told us to be like The Bereans in Act 17.
Therefore, let’s do our homework.
If Rev Ong said about Joseph Prince is not true
then Joseph Prince should have nothing to be concerned about
and also to those who followed Joseph Prince’s ministry wholeheartedly.
Time will eventually prove
who is telling the truth and who is lying.
Who can attack and put down God’s anointed if Joseph Prince
was indeed been chosen by God to preach The Gospel?
None of us can!
Therefore, New Creation Church goers
should have 100% confidence in Joseph Prince and his pastors
since you all believe they are presenting a True Gospel.
Now let’s go and check Rev Ong out what he taught is it Biblical?
(as in we ourselves should read and study Bible)
Then please also do the same to your teacher, Joseph Prince and so on.
It is not mature or sensible
if any of us rebuke a preacher
without we ourselves first studying what he/she preaches.
We are not interested
in playing any sensationalism or favouritism here.
There are precious souls
that need to be awakened from spiritual death.”
@nathantan4266
“Wake up!!!
Don’t be so naive and be deceived by Joseph Prince.”
@user-vo3iy4ur6d
“Save yourself, Gabriel, from lies and untruths.
Have you done your Berean work diligently?
Have you read and studied the 4,800 pages
of excellent research analysis study
done on Joseph Prince’s teachings
in books, videos, CDs?
Joseph Prince is proven liar and deceiver
who took on the characteristics of his master the devil
who is a liar from the beginning.
It is almost impossible to come out
of Joseph Prince’s hypnotic and demonic dominance
over one’s life,
if not for God’s merciful and His great deliverance power.
Rev George Ong’s good works
is one of the positive contributing factors.
New Creation Church is a cult and Joseph Prince, her leader.
I know it is very difficult to be delivered out of a cult.
But Rev George Ong’s ministry
has helped many people
under Joseph Prince’s demonic hypnotism to come out,
and every soul helped;
it is a great victory to the glory of God,
I know there are still saved people in New Creation Church.
I shudder to think it is a place
where there are wheats among the tares.
Father, sanctify them by Thy truth, Thy word is truth.
New Creation Church is a place
where many many untruths are preached and taught
and goats are attracted there,
whereas Rev George Ong
preaches and teaches truths from God’s word,
Those who love truth and walk in truth and who love the light
will be attracted to Rev George Ong’s ministry.
Brother George, keep up the unthankful good work.
Your reward is great in heaven.
one either serves God or Mammon,
binary system, no grey in between,
our conscience bears witness
unless one has trained to sear it over time
and repentance becomes far remote.”
@philipchan3641
“Hello, only those with sub-standard minds
would think that Joseph Prince is preaching the truths.”
Note this is a critique of my website:
@tanbl6746
“Pastor Ong can argue so well against Joseph Prince;
he should have become a Lawyer instead.
Could it be he has missed out on his real gift and calling as a Lawyer???
These are the comments of those
who wrote against the above critic:
@ChristiansofAsia
“Rev George Ong is a lawyer
– Lawyer for our Saviour Jesus!!!”
Note this is a critique of my website:
@ezermt
“The Bible says God finds those that causes divisions
among brethren an abomination.
Be careful.
His ministry has seen people getting healed,
lives transformed, people with bondages being set free.
I don’t think you are in a position to judge others.
God will remove him if he’s not called to do His work.
You should be ashamed of your title.
But again, these are the last days.
Many will try to stir and cause divisions in the church
instead of uniting as one body.”
These are the comments of those
who wrote against the above critic:
@joyceliew4352
“Greetings to you,
My family and I have been with New Creation Church since 2005,
and I can totally understand your statements
because I was just like you
strongly coming to those who rebuked Joseph Prince.
I even mocked them
by saying it will be their lost
for not listening to Joseph Prince’s teachings.
Therefore, today, no matter how others
would not agree with The Bible,
our stands still the same.
We will continue to do the right thing
by warning others to read The Bible for themselves.
Have you honestly read and study The Bible?
We knew Joseph Prince’s ministry
has touched multitudes and with many testimonies.
In fact, that’s how the miracles of many testimonies
got me and family
even more grounded in New Creation Church.
because we want to be the next ones
to get the miracles, promotions in wealth
and be in positions of recognition, etc.
Well, sadly it didn’t happen to us,
Instead, more troubles and hardships
happened to us
until we came to the end of ourselves
and that’s where our eyes opened.
Well, maybe you will think
we were the sore losers and sour grapes
because we didn’t get what Joseph Prince has taught
which I also understand
because I did say that too
to those who didn’t get their promises.
I wouldn’t deny what I’ve said.
I will have to admit it.
We decided to read The Bible from front to the end
for ourselves and test everyone who preach The Word.
I would like to share The Word taken from:
Revelation 13:2-4 AMP
[2] And the beast that I saw resembled a leopard, but his feet were like those of a bear, and his mouth was like that of a lion. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority.
[3] I saw one of his heads which seemed to have a fatal wound, but his fatal wound was healed; and the entire earth followed after the beast in amazement.
[4] They fell down and worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; they also worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like (as great as) the beast, and who is able to wage war against him?”
God told us in Revelation that the dragon/beast (Satan)
could perform miracles and wonders,
to be able to cause the fatal wound to be healed!
Wow!!! No wonder the whole world marvelled
at the miracle and gave allegiance to the beast.
They worship the dragon for giving the beast such power
and they also worship the beast.
I know New Creation Churchgoers
would not need to be concerned about this verse
as they believe they won’t be here on earth
when these things happen.
You all believe the church will be raptured by then.
Bingo!
That’s where the beast has deceived multitudes of churches
thinking they will be raptured away
and therefore, they need not to fear
and need not to read
and understand Book of Revelation.”
@kengoppingoppin
“If you see white swans
and conclude all swans are white,
one sighting of a black swan is enough
to disprove that conclusion.
So, if you think a ministry is all-white,
its dogma beyond doubt and question, unchallengeable,
to be completely trusted and obeyed,
it’s enough to disprove that thought
if you can just show an instance
of deliberate out-of-context preaching,
staged healing,
not to mention the intelligent questioning
of Joseph Prince’s teaching
on international channels including books.”