Joseph Prince’s carnal guesswork of using ‘someone’ which could refer to anyone, and posturing that as a gift of knowledge, and a voice he had heard from God or Jesus, is slandering and lying against the Holy Spirit
– By Rev George Ong (Dated 9 Oct 2024)
Announcements:
There are 2 videos on Derek Prince
& 7 videos on Joseph Prince.
Don’t miss the 6th video of Joseph Prince
– at a Server’s Retreat
Joseph Prince has been absent from the pulpit
for 2 consecutive Sundays on 29 Sep and 6 Oct.
I would expect him to preach this Sunday, 13 Oct.
My Opening Shot to Joseph Prince:
“Hey Joe,
since your last sermon on 22 Sep 2024,
I have featured 8 Articles,
which are meticulously done
against your heretical teachings.
Don’t you think I deserve a detailed reply from you?
So, cut out all your motherhood statements,
which are no more than cowardly acts
to detract from answering me.
Be hearing from you, this Sunday, 13 Oct 2024.”
Excerpt from the Article:
Joseph Prince, who blatantly abuses
the name of Father God and the Lord Jesus,
to lie about his gift of knowledge,
not once, not twice, but countless times,
is from Satan, the father of lies,
a false prophet and a wolf in sheepskin.
And let me warn you again
that Joseph Prince is a false prophet.
In a sermon, Derek Prince said;
“I said, I think in the interview this morning,
I believe John said the same,
anyone who is a genuine prophet today
must emphasize the word repent.
Because, the condition of the world
and the condition of the church
absolutely demand repentance.
You can speak entertaining words;
you can come up with nice prophecies
about people’s future,
but if there’s no call for repentance,
I question whether that person is a true prophet.”
Most of you ought to know by now
that there is no doubt that Joseph Prince who
“speaks entertaining words;
… come up with nice prophecies
about people’s future,”
and preaches an only-believe and no-repentance gospel
is a false prophet.
And let me also warn you
that even if Joseph Prince gets his word of knowledge right,
it is from Satan.
In a sermon, Derek Prince said;
“And let me point out
that the ability to perform dramatic signs and wonders
does not always attest to the truth.
Satan is capable of many dramatic signs and wonders.
Charismatics tend to have this feeling,
‘Well, if it’s supernatural it must be from God.’
That is not true.
Please bear that in mind.
In Acts 16, there was this fortune teller girl who was a slave
and she followed Paul and Silas in the streets saying,
‘These men are the servants of the Most High God
who show to us the way of salvation.’
She was the first person in Philippi
to know who they were
but she was a servant of Satan.
She had a satanic word of knowledge.
How did Paul react?
Did he make her a member of the church at Philippi?
No, he casts the demon of fortune telling out of her.
Let me tell you, all fortune telling is demonic.
And, they do often come out with the truth.
Ruth has given me permission to say this
but before she was saved,
somebody advised her to go to a fortune teller.
She went to this lady who had never seen her before
and never saw her afterwards,
knew nothing about her,
and this woman told her three things:
Your husband has left you,
you have three children
and you are barren,
you cannot have children.
Every one of those statements are true,
but it was Satan who was telling her.
What was Satan’s purpose?
To get Ruth hooked on the satanic supernatural.
By the grace of God, she never went back.
A little later she met the Lord.
But see, I want to warn you
because I see so many Charismatics
who are absolutely set up for the antichrist.
There’s only one sure guarantee of what is true
and that is the scripture.
If you go away from that
you’ll end up in trouble and deception.”
Be warned that even a true word of knowledge
from a preacher, such as Joseph Prince,
can come from Satan himself.
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
In a previous article in July 2024,
I highlighted the fact that in 5 sermons in 2024:
7 July, 12 May, 14 April, 7 April & 31 March,
Joseph Prince used the word, ‘someone’
to deceive the people that he has the gift of knowledge.
He has not changed an iota.
In this article, Joseph Prince did the same thing.
He used the same word, ‘someone,’
in a different set of 5 sermons,
his more recent sermons, in 2024:
22 September, 25 August, 18 August, 28 July & 21 July,
to do the same trick.
In 5 sermons in 2024 on
22 September, 25 August, 18 August, 28 July & 21 July,
Joseph Prince said;
Please see the Appendix
for the verbatim notes of this 3-minute video.
In another sermon given at a Servers’ Retreat,
Joseph Prince said;
“Okay, there’s someone here, you’ve been sitting
and you’ve been realising that when you sit down lately,
there is a pain in your tailbone area.
Who is that?
Alright, stand to your feet.
You’ve been having pain in your tailbone area.
And, it’s a sharp pain.
It’s a sharp pain.
It’s a sharp pain.
You feel a sharp pain or a dull pain.
Those with dull pain.
Yours is dull.
You know what’s a dull and sharp pain?
Yours is sharp pain.
Yours?
Sharp pain.
Yours?
Sharp.
Yours?
Okay, looks like quite a number of sharp pain.
You?
Sharp or dull?
Okay, I’m going to pray for the sharp pain.”
Did you notice what’s going on?
Joseph Prince supposedly gave a word of knowledge
in the audience,
that there is ‘someone – meaning one person
had a sharp pain in the tailbone area.
But as it turned out,
there were 4 or 5 persons
who responded to that word of knowledge
given by Joseph Prince.
Joseph Prince then tried to do damage control
by qualifying that it is a sharp pain and not dull pain
that he was referring to;
hoping that only one person would say
that he was experiencing sharp pain
while the rest – dull pain.
But when all who stood had acknowledged
that they were experiencing sharp pain,
Joseph Prince had to pretend that nothing was wrong
with his so-called gift of knowledge,
and proceeded as usual to pray for all of them.
You must bear in mind that this is a much smaller crowd
– it is a Server’s Retreat (those who serve in New Creation Church)
as compared to a worship service on Sunday.
And if ‘someone’ could refer to 4 or 5 persons in a smaller crowd
– at a Servers’ Retreat,
it certainly could refer to many more
in a 5,000 Sunday worship service.
Concerning these 5 recent sermons in 2024 on
22 September, 25 August, 18 August, 28 July & 21 July,
and what occurred at the Servers’ Retreat,
when Joseph Prince said, “Someone…”
no one ought to be fooled
as it can refer to anyone or everyone.
It’s not the gift of knowledge;
it’s Joseph Prince’s mere guesswork – pure and simple
disguised and spiritualised as a gift of knowledge.
No person is named, ‘Someone’.
So, Joseph Prince ought to quit using the word, ‘Someone’
and start calling out names
if he really has the gift of knowledge.
In this way,
whether Joseph Prince indeed has the gift of knowledge
can be tested.
Even if Joseph Prince does not call out names,
he should at least call or point the person out
from among the audience
that it is he or she that Joseph Prince is referring to.
Also, we can know for sure,
that the person knows it is truly referring to him or her.
The joke is that in a 5,000 audience
at a Sunday worship service,
when Joseph Prince said,
‘Someone here has a knee problem
and God is healing you now,’
the ‘someone’ could well refer to many in the audience
with the same condition as he has described.
If Joseph Prince really claimed
to have the gift of knowledge and healing,
he must be more specific.
He must say there is someone
with pain in his shoulder,
and God will heal him,
and his name is Larry Soh.
So, all others with the same affliction of shoulder pain,
who isn’t named Larry Soh,
would know God isn’t referring to them.
If Larry Soh is, indeed, healed,
this would remove all doubt
that Joseph Prince is not making mere guesses,
but he is exercising the gift of knowledge and healing.
I have been watching
Joseph Prince exercising his so-called gift of knowledge
in plenty of his sermons for many years,
but I have never heard him
mentioning a specific name a single time
that that person would be healed.
Naming names would remove all doubt
that Joseph Prince is not making mere guesses
– that what he said about someone with pain in his shoulders
is referring to a specific individual
out of the many with the same problem.
Do you know why Joseph Prince
wouldn’t dare to name names
or, at least, point out the individual person?
He knows he would get it wrong
and that would straightaway expose
his fraudulent claim about his word of knowledge.
Second, it is the habit of Joseph Prince to give
his so-called words of knowledge in many worship services.
I have gone through
the relevant portions of each of these 5 sermons.
But I discovered that many of these
so-called words of knowledge given by Joseph Prince
went unaccounted for.
What I meant is that
if these words of knowledge given by Joseph Prince were true
– and he has given plenty of them in his many sermons,
each and every of these
must have a testimony of people healed
according to what Joseph Prince has specifically described.
But what is happening
is that when Joseph Prince finds that one, out of say, 10
of these so-called words of knowledge, he had given
supposedly came to be true,
Joseph Prince would make a big fuss and publicity,
and make sure that the world knows about it.
But as the saying goes,
one swallow does not make a summer.
And what about the rest of the 9 that went unaccounted for?
This means Joseph Prince is lying against the Holy Spirit
when he claimed that it was the Holy Spirit or God or Jesus
who told him that the rest of the 9 were healed.
In other words, there is no conscious effort
on the part of either Joseph Prince or New Creation Church
to track every word of knowledge that Joseph Prince has given
in order to determine their truth or falsity.
And of course,
this is the last thing that Joseph Prince would want to do
as he knows that would expose his fraudulent scheme.
Just to quote one example.
On 22 Sep 2024, in Joseph Prince’s last sermon preached
(He did not preach the following 2 Sundays,
on 29 Sep and 6 Oct 2024),
he gave the following so-called word of knowledge.
There’s someone with a growth in your mouth,
and you can feel it with your tongue,
the growth, feel it right now,
the growth is gone in Jesus’ name.”
When it came to testimony time on 22 Sep 2024,
no one testified about that specific healing.
Then I deliberately combed through
the worship services and the sermons
that were delivered on 29 Sep 2024
and 6 Oct 2024 – last Sunday,
the two Sundays after 22 Sep 2024,
in which Joseph Prince gave that word of knowledge,
I found that no such testimony was given.
The same thing happened on 7 Apr 2024;
Joseph Prince said;
“Hey listen, don’t laugh.
Someone’s hair is restored.
Praise God.
There are bald patches.
You just realised that.
Now, you can’t look into a mirror right now.
Maybe, you can feel it.
But God has restored hair.
And it’s black, alright.
It’s not white hair.
Praise the Lord.
Thank You, Jesus.
So, with renewal of youth.”
This prophecy about hair growth
was given by Joseph Prince in his 7 Apr 2024 sermon.
First, this prophecy refers to a person
who attended the worship service on 7 Apr 2024
when Joseph Prince said:
“There are bald patches.
You just realised that.
Now, you can’t look into a mirror right now.
Maybe, you can feel it.
But God has restored hair.”
Second, this prophecy that Joseph Prince gave
about hair growth
had already taken place on 7 Apr 2024,
and not about to take place
or gradually taking place,
when Joseph Prince said:
“Hey listen, don’t laugh.
Someone’s hair is restored…
Now, you can’t look into a mirror right now.
Maybe, you can feel it.
But God has restored hair.
And it’s black, alright.
It’s not white hair.”
Today is 9 Oct 2024
and 6 months have passed and gone
since 7 Apr 2024,
but there is still no news
of anyone who attended the worship service on 7 Apr 2024
who have come forward to testify
that his or her hair grew over those bald patches
on 7 Apr 2024.
This is nothing but what I call the ‘Tikam-Tikam’
or the ‘Try-Your-Luck’ approach by Joseph Prince
– that if he could hit a few out of the very many
with ‘correct’ prophecies, he would be vindicated
for his prophesying gift,
or the gift of knowledge and healing giftings.
But what about the very many so-called prophecies on healings
that went unaccounted for?
Joseph Prince knows that the world
would forget about the many
that went unaccounted for,
and that none would be bothered,
or even take notice of it,
except George Ong, who caught him.
But what is worse
is that Joseph Prince has abused
the name of the Lord Jesus and Father God
to prophesy and lie about his gift of knowledge
when he said on 22 Sep 2024,
“the growth is gone
in Jesus’ name,”
and when he said on 7 Apr 2024,
“But God
has restored hair.”
Joseph Prince, who blatantly abuses
the name of Father God and the Lord Jesus,
to lie about his gift of knowledge,
not once, not twice, but countless times,
is from Satan, the father of lies,
a false prophet and a wolf in sheepskin.
And let me warn you again
that Joseph Prince is a false prophet.
In a sermon, Derek Prince said;
“I said, I think in the interview this morning,
I believe John said the same,
anyone who is a genuine prophet today
must emphasize the word repent.
Because, the condition of the world
and the condition of the church
absolutely demand repentance.
You can speak entertaining words;
you can come up with nice prophecies
about people’s future,
but if there’s no call for repentance,
I question whether that person is a true prophet.”
Most of you ought to know by now
that there is no doubt that Joseph Prince who
“speaks entertaining words;
… come up with nice prophecies
about people’s future,”
and preaches an only-believe and no-repentance gospel
is a false prophet.
And let me also warn you
that even if Joseph Prince gets his word of knowledge right,
it is from Satan.
In a sermon, Derek Prince said;
“And let me point out
that the ability to perform dramatic signs and wonders
does not always attest to the truth.
Satan is capable of many dramatic signs and wonders.
Charismatics tend to have this feeling,
‘Well, if it’s supernatural it must be from God.’
That is not true.
Please bear that in mind.
In Acts 16, there was this fortune teller girl who was a slave
and she followed Paul and Silas in the streets saying,
‘These men are the servants of the Most High God
who show to us the way of salvation.’
She was the first person in Philippi
to know who they were
but she was a servant of Satan.
She had a satanic word of knowledge.
How did Paul react?
Did he make her a member of the church at Philippi?
No, he casts the demon of fortune telling out of her.
Let me tell you, all fortune telling is demonic.
And, they do often come out with the truth.
Ruth has given me permission to say this
but before she was saved,
somebody advised her to go to a fortune teller.
She went to this lady who had never seen her before
and never saw her afterwards,
knew nothing about her,
and this woman told her three things:
Your husband has left you,
you have three children
and you are barren,
you cannot have children.
Every one of those statements are true,
but it was Satan who was telling her.
What was Satan’s purpose?
To get Ruth hooked on the satanic supernatural.
By the grace of God she never went back.
A little later she met the Lord.
But see, I want to warn you
because I see so many Charismatics
who are absolutely set up for the antichrist.
There’s only one sure guarantee of what is true
and that is the scripture.
If you go away from that
you’ll end up in trouble and deception.”
Be warned that a true word of knowledge from a preacher,
such as Joseph Prince,
can come from Satan himself.
Rev George Ong
Appendix
Verbatim notes of this 3-minute video,
in 5 sermons in 2024 on
22 September, 25 August, 18 August, 28 July & 21 July.
In the 22 September 2024 sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“There is someone here,
you have just been diagnosed
with the beginning stage of dementia.
The Lord says, He’s healing you.
Someone, right now in this service,
you’re experiencing that.
And someone has been experiencing that for some time
in another service right now,
and I see it in the spirit.
The Lord is healing you as well.
There is someone with,
you have been diagnosed with a tumour,
a certain tumour in your bone.
There’s someone here, even these past few days,
you experienced it in a more increasing way, acid reflux,
and the Lord is healing you.
There’s someone with a growth in your mouth,
and you can feel it with your tongue,
the growth, feel it right now,
the growth is gone in Jesus’ name.”
In the 25 August 2024 sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“Someone has a, again, a pinched shoulder.
There’s something pinched near the back.
If you have a problem,
you are always going to the restroom at night,
you wake a lot at night, Amen,
someone being healed of that condition.
Someone’s neck just got healed again, praise the Lord.
So, someone just got healed of that condition.
Your valve is healed.
All kinds of ulcers being healed in the mouth.
And some of you (someone) have that
for quite a number of days, big ones.
The Lord has healed you.”
In the 18 August 2024 sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“God’s going to heal all kinds of heart condition.
And that is a word from the Lord.
Heart condition, all kinds.
If you have a heart condition,
just place your hand on your heart.
I see someone placing your hand on your right side.
Someone’s knee is being healed right now.
Someone cannot bend all the way
until you stop somewhere here.
Someone with watery eyes just now.
If fact, throughout the whole time that we were here.
Your eyes was watering.
Now your eyes are healed.”
In the 28 July 2024 sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“The Lord is touching someone with a neck condition.
Someone came in here today.
You have a problem with your eyes and
you’ve been having it for some time.
And thank you Lord.
The Lord is healing your eye right now.
There’s someone here,
you have the real problem with your knee,
when it turns one side, you buckle.
There’s someone here, you have a problem.
And you cannot move your shoulder all the way up.
Move it right now in Jesus’ name.
A man (someone)
has been diagnosed with prostate cancer.
The Lord says your healing has begun.
I feel like someone with a back of your shoulder being healed.
In the 21 July 2024 sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“In fact, just now, there’s someone,
those who came in here with pain in your foot,
and now, it’s gone.
Another person (someone) I see that
there is a valve condition in your heart that’s open up,
and it was faulty,
and I see a brand, new valve right now.
God put it right in your heart, a brand, new valve.
And there is someone also you find
there is a cyst producing out of your skin.
There’s someone here, you cannot bend like most of us,
we can bend all the way.
And there is also a muscle tear
where someone cannot lift his hand all the way up,
but now you can.”