Joseph Prince Vs Derek Prince, Peter Tan-Chi, Martyn Lloyd-Jones & Michael Brown on the Fear of the Lord – By Rev George Ong (Dated 21 June 2024)

 

Announcement No 1:

 

There are 7 videos on Derek Prince

 

& 1 video each on Peter Tan-Chi,

 

Michael Brown & Joseph Prince.

 

Announcement No 2:

 

I believe after an absence of 4 consecutive Sundays,

 

Joseph Prince would most likely be preaching this Sunday.

 

If not this Sunday, then definitely, the next.

 

Please see the Appendix

 

for the Featured YouTube comments.

 

Excerpt No 1 from the Article:

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

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to view the 50-second video:

 

“Proverbs 10 verse 27 says this,

 

“The fear of the LORD prolongs days,

 

But the years of the wicked will be shortened.”

 

So, listen, if you have the Fear of the Lord in your life

 

you will live longer than you would have without it.

 

Doesn’t tell you how long you will live,

 

but you will live longer than you would have lived

 

without the Fear of the Lord in your life.

 

And I’ve lived a long life

 

and I need some more years of life

 

because my job on earth is not finished.

 

And I tell you I’m very careful

 

to cultivate the Fear of the Lord

 

because it prolongs life.

 

Who would turn that down?

 

The only people who would turn that down

 

are people who are totally unbelieving or totally ignorant.

 

You cannot afford to live without the Fear of the Lord.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Derek Prince brought to our attention

 

that the condition of long life

 

is the Fear of the Lord:

 

Proverbs 10:27 NLT

 

Fear of the Lord lengthens one’s life,

 

but the years of the wicked are cut short.

 

Since Joseph Prince has not even met the condition

 

of fearing God

 

because he teaches against it,

 

how can he be qualified to teach on long life

 

and inherit such a blessing

 

in the first place?  

 

Joseph Prince’s claim that he would live a long life to 120

 

is pure garbage that is fit for the dumps.

 

Excerpt No 2 from the Article:

 

@desmondteng3025

 

“The congregation laughed

 

when Joseph Prince said, ‘Tian Ah’.

 

Is it a joke?

 

Where is the fear of God?”

 

@desmondteng3025

 

“Derek Prince preached on deliverance,

 

Joseph Prince preached on prosperity.

 

Derek Prince preached on the fear of God,

 

Joseph Prince preached on hyper grace.

 

Two different Princes.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“@edmundsim6251

 

Years ago, we opened up The Bible

 

and showed it to our care group members

 

about errors in Joseph Prince’s teachings.

 

But we were shocked to hear they said

 

that the Bible were written by men

 

and therefore, there might be some errors

 

whereas Joseph Prince teaches accurately

 

and they rather stand with Joseph Prince’s teachings.

 

What else is still needed to say for us?

 

We left with much grief.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“@joyceliew4352 

 

So sad to read this.

 

The National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS)

 

should read this and weep!”

 

(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)

 

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In 2 sermons, Joseph Prince said;

 

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Come children. Listen to me.

I will teach you, this is how it starts,

 

what it means to fear the Lord.

 

Notice it begins with children,

 

the Father is talking to you.

 

I want to teach you the Fear of the Lord.

 

So, we have all kinds of ideas

 

about the Fear of the Lord in the Body of Christ.

 

In fact, there seemed to be a revival of teaching

 

on the Fear of the Lord,

 

the Old Testament way.

 

God has moved mountains; they don’t even realise.

 

They are camping in old ground.

 

They are in New Covenant.

 

Many Christians, unfortunately, are in the New Covenant,

 

Old Covenant mentality.

 

They still have the wrong kind of fear of God.

 

And Jesus defined the Fear of the Lord as,

 

in the wilderness temptation,

 

as the worship of God.

 

Thou shall worship the Lord thy God.

 

Well, you look at that verse He quoted from

 

is from Deuteronomy 6:13

 

where it says thou shall fear the Lord thy God.

 

So, Jesus defined the Fear of the Lord (Deut 6:13)

 

in the Old Testament as worship (Matt 4:10).”    

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Joseph Prince creates a false dichotomy

 

between the Old Testament and the New Testament’s

 

understanding of the Fear of the Lord.   

 

His view is that we must never fear God

 

the Old Testament way,

 

as Jesus Himself had defined

 

the Fear of the Lord as the worship of God.  

 

in the New Covenant

 

This false dichotomy generated by Joseph Prince

 

is exposed by Derek Prince, Martyn Lloyd-Jones,

 

Michael Brown and Peter Tan-Chi

 

as I will unveil in the ensuing discussion.

 

In ‘Power of Right Believing,’ Joseph Prince wrote:

 

“When the devil tempted Jesus in the wilderness, he said,

 

“All these things [all the kingdoms of the world and their glory]

 

I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

 

Jesus, quoting from the book of Deuteronomy, replied,

 

“Away with you, Satan! For it is written,

 

‘You shall worship the LORD your God,

 

and Him only you shall serve’” (Matt. 4:9-10).

 

Now, if you do a quick check

 

on what Jesus quoted in the book of Deuteronomy,

 

it actually says,

 

“You shall fear the LORD your God…” (Deut. 6:13).

 

So Jesus defined the “fear” of God

 

as the “worship” of God.

 

In other words, the only “fear”

 

that you should have in your life is the worship of God.

 

Worship Him and all your fears will fade away

 

in the light of His glory and grace.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Even if it is true that Jesus understood the Fear of the Lord

 

in Deuteronomy 6:13 as worship in Matthew 4:10,

 

what about the many other verses

 

that contain the Fear of the Lord

 

in the New Testament?

 

Many of such verses

 

that comprise the Fear of the Lord

 

is speaking about fearing God per se

 

and not strictly about the worship of God.

 

Three of such examples

 

are Matthew 10:28, Acts 9:31 and 1 Peter 1:15-19.

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

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to view the 1-minute video:

 

“Now, I’m going back to the theme which I announced,

 

The Fear of the Lord.

 

So many Christians have got the idea,

 

“Well, that was something from the Old Testament.

 

It was under the Law.

 

We don’t need the Fear of the Lord in our lives at all.

 

That’s old fashioned.”

 

That’s totally unscriptural and uncorrect.

 

I want to give you just a few simple facts from Scripture

 

about the Fear of the Lord.

 

Psalm 19 and verse 9 says this.

 

“The fear of the LORD is clean,

 

enduring forever…”

 

So, there’s never a time

 

when the Fear of the Lord ceases to be relevant.

 

It endures forever.

 

And in Proverbs 23 verse 17, the writer of Proverbs says:

 

“That you may continue all day long

 

in the fear of the Lord…”

 

So, the Fear of the Lord is forever and it’s for all day long.

 

In other words, there is no time in your life

 

when you should not be in the Fear of the Lord.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Derek Prince has debunked Joseph Prince’s lie

 

that the Old Testament’s understanding

 

of the Fear of the Lord

 

is no longer relevant in the New Covenant.

 

Since the Fear of the Lord endures forever (Psa 19:9),

 

this means that the Old Testament’s conception

 

of the Fear of the Lord

 

continues into the New Covenant

 

and through all of eternity.    

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

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to view the 30-second video:

 

“First of all, it is fear of a special kind, but it is fear.

 

You’ll notice quite a number of the modern translations

 

don’t use the word fear.

 

That, I think, is partly under a humanistic influence

 

which would indicate we don’t have to fear God.

 

Believe me, we do have to fear God.

 

God is to be feared

 

and there’s nothing in the Bible

 

that ever suggests that’s done away with.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Derek Prince has again stated

 

that since the Fear of the Lord

 

has not been done away with,

 

God is to be feared

 

for all New Covenant believers today.

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

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to view the 40-second video:

 

“Psalm 19:9, which says:

 

“The fear of the Lord is clean,

 

enduring forever.”

 

I believe the Fear of the Lord is not merely clean,

 

it is cleansing.

 

It purifies; it keeps us clean.

 

And that passage says it endures forever.

 

Not merely for this life but for eternity.

 

The Fear of the Lord

 

will always be a mark of all the true people of God

 

– whether human or angelic.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Since Derek Prince states

 

that the Fear of the Lord will

 

always be a mark of all the true people of God,

 

Joseph Prince, who deliberately does away

 

with the Fear of the Lord

 

for the New Covenant,

 

does not belong to the true people of God.

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

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to view the 1-minute-40-second video:

 

“Now, people say,

 

“Well, I’m saved.

 

I don’t need the Fear of the Lord.”

 

That’s when you need it most.

 

Let me show you in 1 Peter.

 

1 Peter chapter 1, verses 15 through 19,

 

and remember this is written to people

 

who’ve been redeemed by the blood of Jesus.

 

“But as He who has called you is holy,

 

you also be holy in all your conduct,

 

[all your conduct, not some of it.]

 

because it is written,

 

‘Be holy, for I am holy.’

 

And if you call on the Father

 

who without partiality judges

 

according to each one’s work,

 

conduct yourselves throughout the time

 

of your sojourning here in fear.”

 

Whom was it written to?

 

People redeemed by the blood of Jesus.

 

What did it say?

 

Conduct the time of your sojourning here in fear.

 

And why?

 

“Knowing that you were not redeemed

 

with corruptible things, like silver or gold,

 

from your aimless conduct

 

received by tradition from your fathers,

 

but with the precious blood of Christ,

 

as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.”

 

The very fact that God paid our redemption

 

with the blood of Jesus,

 

the most precious thing in the universe,

 

is a reason why we should always walk in fear.

 

Fear that we somehow betray our Redeemer,

 

fear that somehow, we lower the price of our redemption

 

to something cheap and insignificant.

 

That’s the mark of a committed Christian.

 

That’s the mark of a Christian

 

who understands what it cost God to redeem him.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Derek Prince by his exposition of 1 Peter 1:15-19

 

has dealt a death blow

 

to Joseph Prince’s teaching

 

that the Fear of the Lord under the Old Covenant

 

no longer applies to the New Covenant.  

 

Derek Prince went on to say

 

that walking in the Fear of the Lord

 

is the mark of a Christian.

 

This means Joseph Prince

 

who teaches against the Fear of the Lord

 

cannot be considered a Christian in the first place.  

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

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to view the 1-minute-30-second video:

 

“Then it’s very informative

 

to study the Fear of the Lord in the life of Jesus.

 

And these are found in Isaiah chapter 11

 

beginning at the first verse.

 

“There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse,

 

And a Branch shall grow out of his roots.

 

[that’s the Messiah, the descendant of David.

 

Now, this is the mark of the Messiah,

 

the mark of the Son of God.]

 

The Spirit of the LORD Shall rest upon Him,

 

The Spirit of wisdom and understanding,

 

The Spirit of counsel and might,

 

The Spirit of knowledge

 

And of the fear of the LORD.”

 

The final manifestation of the Holy Spirit

 

that marked out Jesus as the Messiah

 

and God’s beloved Son was what?

 

… the fear of the Lord.

 

And then the next verse says this.

 

“His delight is in the fear of the LORD.”

 

Dear brothers and sisters,

 

surely, we cannot improve on Jesus.

 

If Jesus, God’s beloved Son, Messiah and Savior,

 

was marked out by the Fear of the Lord

 

and if He delighted in the Fear of the Lord,

 

how can you or I ever dare to say

 

we don’t need the Fear of the Lord.

 

It’s a terrible thing to say.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

By teaching against the Fear of the Lord,

 

Joseph Prince is categorically denying

 

that the Fear of the Lord

 

is one key distinguishing mark of the Lord Jesus.  

 

How can one who denies

 

that the Fear of the Lord

 

is a key mark of the Lord Jesus Himself,

 

be said to be Christ-centred

 

and a true teacher of God’s word?

 

What is worse is that

 

Joseph Prince tried to ‘delete’ the Fear of the Lord

 

from God’s word

 

when he deliberately left out exegeting the concept

 

when he preached on the same text of Isaiah 11:1-3.

 

As for the details,

 

please refer to a previous short article,

 

Joseph Prince’s crafty ploy of hiding God’s word from you – the fear of the Lord – By Rev George Ong (Dated 20 Apr 2024)

 

by clicking on the link below,

 

https://www.revgeorgeong.com/rev-george-ong-joseph-princes-crafty-ploy-of-hiding-gods-word-from-you-the-fear-of-the-lord/

 

In a teaching session, Michael Brown said;

 

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to view the 2-minute video:

 

“It is not a servile fear.

 

1 John 4 tells us that fear has to do with punishment,

 

the type of servile fear; God’s out to get you.

 

God’s looking for one wrong thing that you do.

 

God wants to expose you.

 

God wants to humiliate you.

 

One wrong – caught you, caught you, caught you.

 

No, no, no.

 

That is a destructive fear.

 

There is a fear that has to do with punishment.

 

There is a servile fear.

 

And there is no fear in love.

 

Perfect love casts out that kind of fear.      

 

But there’s a holy fear, a reverential fear.

 

Jesus said Matthew 10:28 to His disciples,

 

don’t fear those who kill the body but can’t kill the soul.

 

Rather fear Him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

 

Jesus said that.

 

Hebrews 12:25-29, as everything around us is shaking

 

and there will be a final ultimate shaking

 

at the end of this age,

 

and the only thing that will last is the kingdom of God.

 

What does it say?

 

Let us then serve God acceptably with reverence and godly awe

 

for our God is a consuming fire.

 

Even a positive description of the Church

 

in the Book of Acts,

 

thriving and growing in Acts 9 (v31);

 

they were walking in the Fear of the Lord.

 

There is a healthy fear.

 

There is a reverential awe.

 

There’s a recognition for who He is and who we are.       

 

Friends, if our God is a consuming fire,

 

Deuteronomy 4:24 in the Old Testament,

 

Hebrews 12:29 in the New Testament,

 

same God, the same God.

 

Our heavenly Father, who so deeply loves us

 

through the blood of Jesus

 

and who receives us by His grace as His sons and daughters,

 

that God is a consuming fire.

 

You don’t play games with a consuming fire.

 

You don’t play games with a holy God.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Michael Brown asserts that the Fear of the Lord

 

is not just an Old Testament idea in Deuteronomy 4:24,

 

but it is also a New Testament reality

 

in Hebrews 12:29, Matthew 10:28 and Acts 9:31.

 

Michael Brown also highlighted

 

what the fear of the Lord is not

 

– it is not a servile or slavish fear.

 

This was also highlighted by Joseph Prince in his sermons.

 

But, there again, Joseph Prince has told a half-truth.

 

While Joseph Prince told the half-truth

 

that the Fear of the Lord is not servile or slavish fear,

 

he craftily hides the other half of the truth from you

 

that the New Covenant teaching on the Fear of the Lord

 

goes beyond worship to actually fearing God.

 

A case in point is Acts 9:31.

 

In a teaching session, Peter Tan-Chi said;

 

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to view the 1-minute video:

 

“Today, many people don’t understand the Fear of the Lord.

 

We like to focus on the love of God,

 

which is very important.

 

But the Bible talks about the reality of the Fear of the Lord;

 

it is a healthy fear.

 

It is not the idea of you shudder;

 

you’re scared of God.

 

No, but it has the idea of you don’t want to displease Him.

 

You honour Him.

 

You know the consequences of disobeying Him.

 

So, this idea of fear is very healthy.

 

The Bible often talks about the double motivation,

 

the dual motivation of the Christian life.

 

Love and the fear of God.

 

In the Old Testament,

 

we are commanded to love God and to fear Him.

 

In the New Testament,

 

we are commanded to love God and to fear Him.      

 

What about you?

 

Do you have a healthy Fear of the Lord?

 

Do you have love for the Lord?

 

These are not in opposition;

 

they go together.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

By Peter Tan-Chi’s teaching

 

that we need to both love God and fear Him,  

 

Joseph Prince’s half-truth teaching is again exposed.

 

While Joseph Prince teaches that we are to love God,

 

he teaches against fearing Him.  

 

Peter Tan-Chi’s teaching that we are to fear God

 

in both the Old and New Testaments

 

has exposed Joseph Prince’s doctrine

 

that we are no longer required to fear God

 

in the Old Testament way

 

as the fear of God for New Covenant believers

 

is now reduced to just worshipping Him.

 

In ‘Exposition of Romans Chapter 11, To God’s Glory,’

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“Let me say finally that every failure

 

to realize the truth of Romans 11:22

 

leads to a lack of godliness,

 

a lack of ‘the fear of the Lord’.

 

It leads to a lightness, a glibness, a superficiality, a self-contentment,

 

and finally, this ugly boastfulness.

 

… How often do you hear people talking about ‘the fear of the Lord’?

 

But, you see,

 

those are the terms that are used in the Bible.

 

Take for instance in that most lyrical book,

 

the Book of the Acts of the Apostles;

 

I read this in chapter 9 and verse 31:

 

‘Then had the churches rest

 

throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria,

 

and were edified;

 

and walking in the fear of the Lord,

 

and the comfort of the Holy Ghost,

 

were multiplied’.

 

Why is this so true of us today,

 

that there is not much evidence

 

of ‘the fear of the Lord’?

 

We all must be bright and breezy,

 

back slapping and happy.

 

That is not in the Bible!

 

‘The fear of the Lord’.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones has rightly taught

 

that the Fear of the Lord

 

is taught in the New Testament in Acts 9:31.

 

This has nothing to do with worshipping God per se

 

that Joseph Prince tries to deceive us with

 

but fearing Him.

 

In ‘A Merciful and Faithful High Priest, Studies in the Book of Hebrews,’

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“Noah believed God about the flood,

 

and then we are told

 

that he was “moved with fear.”

 

What a wonderful statement that is.

 

“Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet,

 

moved with fear …” (Heb. 11:7).

 

This does not mean a craven fear.

 

“Perfect love casteth out fear” (1 John 4:18).

 

But there is a right kind of fear.

 

What does the statement in Hebrews mean?

 

Noah was given a realization, vaguely and dimly,

 

of the greatness of the glory

 

and the holiness and the purity of God.

 

The trouble with us is that we do not fear God.

 

“There is no fear of God before his eyes,”

 

says the psalmist (Ps. 36:1).

 

… We are told about the early Christians in Acts 9:31,

 

“Then had the churches rest…

 

and walking in the fear of the Lord,

 

and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost,

 

were multiplied.”

 

“Walking in the fear of the Lord.”

 

That is Christianity.

 

Or listen to Paul again:

 

“Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord,

 

we persuade men” (2 Cor. 5:11).

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

2 Corinthians 5:11 NASB

 

11 Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord,

 

we persuade people…

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones highlighted the fact

 

that Paul had, in fact, taught on the Fear of the Lord

 

in Acts 9:31 and 1 Corinthians 5:11.  

 

There is no indication

 

that Paul was alluding to the worship of God

 

in both of these passages

 

that Joseph Prince would have us believe.

 

Since Paul taught against Joseph Prince

 

on the Fear of the Lord,

 

he ought to be ashamed of himself

 

for lying that Paul was his mentor

 

whom he had learned all his grace theology from.

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 15-second video:

 

Job 28:28.

 

“And to man God said,

 

‘Behold, the fear of the Lord,

 

is wisdom.’”

 

True wisdom is inseparable

 

from the Fear of the Lord.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

One of Joseph Prince frequent themes of his grace theology

 

is that we must have the wisdom of God.

 

If true wisdom is inseparable from the Fear of the Lord

 

that Derek Prince asserts,

 

the wisdom that Joseph Prince claims to possess and teaches

 

is nothing but Pseudo-wisdom

 

as he teaches against the Fear of the Lord.

 

How could Joseph Prince be said to possess true wisdom

 

when he constantly teaches that we are not to fear God?

 

In a teaching session, Derek Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 50-second video:

 

“Proverbs 10 verse 27 says this,

 

“The fear of the LORD prolongs days,

 

But the years of the wicked will be shortened.”

 

So, listen, if you have the Fear of the Lord in your life

 

you will live longer than you would have without it.

 

Doesn’t tell you how long you will live,

 

but you will live longer than you would have lived

 

without the Fear of the Lord in your life.

 

And I’ve lived a long life

 

and I need some more years of life

 

because my job on earth is not finished.

 

And I tell you I’m very careful

 

to cultivate the Fear of the Lord

 

because it prolongs life.

 

Who would turn that down?

 

The only people who would turn that down

 

are people who are totally unbelieving or totally ignorant.

 

You cannot afford to live without the Fear of the Lord.”

 

George Ong’s comments:

 

Derek Prince brought to our attention

 

that the condition of long life

 

is the Fear of the Lord:

 

Proverbs 10:27 NLT

 

Fear of the Lord lengthens one’s life,

 

but the years of the wicked are cut short.

 

Since Joseph Prince has not even met the condition

 

of fearing God

 

because he teaches against it,

 

how can he be qualified to teach on long life

 

and inherit such a blessing

 

in the first place?  

 

Joseph Prince’s claim that he would live a long life to 120

 

is pure garbage that is fit for the dumps.

 

Rev George Ong

 

Appendix

 

Featured YouTube comments:

 

@sibgrace

 

“I was a die-hard of Joseph Prince until God took me out…

 

For 10 years, I ate, slept and shit on Joseph Prince’s sermon

 

in my MP3 player.

 

One day, I found out that I couldn’t listen anymore,

 

not even 5 minutes…

 

I thought it was a demon attack, but no.

 

I only realised that it was God

 

who took me out of New Creation Church after 5 years

 

because of the false prosperity gospel.

 

Thank God…”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“I think there is no difference

 

between the National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS)

 

and Salt & Light.

 

They seek to maintain ‘pseudo’ unity

 

in coming together as Body of Christ.

 

But when it comes to difficult issues

 

like calling out false teachers/prophets,

 

they all fall short and compromise. 

 

This is the sad state of Christianity in Singapore.”

 

@jwcas318

 

“Thank God for Rev George Ong.

 

Too few people are speaking up against false teachings.”

 

@lindakoo5221

 

“Dear Rev George, thank you so much once again

 

for your courage to expose Joseph Prince

 

of all his lies, heresies and false teachings of God’s word

 

all these years.

 

Joseph Prince will certainly be accountable to God one day.

 

Please continue with the good works

 

and I believe you will certainly not labour in vain.

 

Pray for all those who have been

 

and are still being brainwashed till this day

 

by his false teachings

 

and REPENT and be saved from hell.”

 

@desmondteng3025

 

“I have a friend who has a terminally sick family member.

 

Her pastor and cell leader came down

 

and prayed for the sick person

 

and claimed that he has already been healed

 

in the name of Jesus.

 

But he died and my friend said she didn’t understand

 

how come he died.

 

I met her a few years later

 

and reminded her of the incident,

 

and she said there was no such incident.

 

I am thinking what caused her memory block?

 

She is from New Creation Church.”

 

@KimKokGan

 

“Really appreciate Rev George Ong

 

for warning all of us

 

about the false teachings of Joseph Prince.

 

Matthew 7:13-14

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

New Creation Church is so big, crowded and rich

 

because Man like

 

and be enticed to listen to feel-good preaching

 

which is not the truth.”

 

@kengoppingoppin

 

“Methinks Charles Spurgeon, if he were alive today,

 

would be doing what Rev George Ong is doing now.

 

Charles Spurgeon:

 

“I cannot endure false doctrine,

 

however neatly it may be put before me…

 

It makes me indignant when I hear another gospel

 

put before the people with enticing words,

 

by men who would fain make merchandise of souls;

 

and I marvel at those

 

who have soft words for such deceivers.”

 

In Galatians 1:8-9, Paul twice pronounced God’s curse

 

upon those who preached another gospel (like Joseph Prince’s edition).

 

He didn’t say don’t judge them, love them.

 

But some New Creation Church members,

 

maybe indoctrinated and brainwashed,

 

paralysed in thinking, would say, ‘Don’t judge.’

 

They had better judge themselves first.”

 

@8studio

 

“When I was with New Creation Church many years ago,

 

which was my first church,

 

someone also says something like

 

‘it is good for beginners for a start…’

 

Looking back, I think that person should have told me upfront

 

and prevented me from the wrong teachings,

 

and wasted my life on this spiritual poison.

 

Thanks to Rev George for standing up

 

and speaking the truth.”

 

@lindakoo5221

 

“Thank you very much, Rev George Ong,

 

for your courage to defend the gospel.

 

As bornagain Christians,

 

we should be bold to contend against false teachings

 

and defend the gospel.”

 

@jasonlow2266

 

“Conclusion is we live in this kiasee society, so naturally

 

all those useless church leaders

 

from the National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS)

 

are scared of Joseph Prince

 

due to his huge number of followers;

 

therefore, dare not take appropriate action against him.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“Basically, no fear of the Lord in them

 

and no love for God’s sheep (the lost sheep)

 

@edmundsim6251

 

“@lindsaylim5806 

 

That’s also what I am thinking of as well.

 

When they read the Bible

 

and it doesn’t match what Jesus is saying,

 

don’t they find it so strange?

 

They really have no fear of the Lord?

 

They claim to be disciple of Christ

 

and the same disciple of Christ as us,

 

but it seems that it is another discipleship

 

which is a counterfeit one

 

– wolves in sheep’s clothing.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“@edmundsim6251

 

Years ago, we opened up The Bible

 

and showed it to our care group members

 

about errors in Joseph Prince’s teachings.

 

But we were shocked to hear they said

 

that the Bible were written by men

 

and therefore, there might be some errors

 

whereas Joseph Prince teaches accurately

 

and they rather stand with Joseph Prince’s teachings.

 

What else is still needed to say for us?

 

We left with much grief.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“@joyceliew4352 

 

So sad to read this.

 

The National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS)

 

should read this and weep!”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“@edmundsim6251

 

No, they are not wolves

 

as these pastors still preach or teach accurately

 

but they did not lay down their lives for the sheep

 

as any true shepherd

 

(and also Jesus our Good Shepherd) 

 

will do so as taught in John 10.”

 

John 10.12-15.ESV

[12] He who is a hired hand and not a shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees, and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. [13] He flees because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep. [14] I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, [15] just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep.

 

@desmondteng3025

 

“The congregation laughed

 

when Joseph Prince said, ‘Tian Ah’.

 

Is it a joke?

 

Where is the fear of God?”

 

@desmondteng3025

 

“Derek Prince preached on deliverance,

 

Joseph Prince preached on prosperity.

 

Derek Prince preached on the fear of God,

 

Josseph Prince preached on hyper grace.

 

Two different Princes.”

 

@davidching7803

 

“Hyper grace and Prosperity Gospel

 

is a false doctrine that is unfounded in the Bible.

 

Whoever preaches any form of false doctrine or follow them

 

shall be rejected by Jesus and enter the lake of fire.

 

It’s written in the Bible.

 

Just shows that Joseph Prince is not God anointed

 

but Satan possessed.”

 

@lindakoo5221

 

“Absolutely true that Joseph Prince is a false prophet

 

preaching half-truths, distorted and twisted truths.

 

He seriously needs to REPENT!”

 

@kevinjanghj

 

“Joseph Prince is just a ravenous wolf.

 

To be able to cause such divisions within a family,

 

it takes evil of a special kind to do so.”

 

@1908great

 

“If you sin, it is you. 

 

Don’t pass the buck!

 

Face up to it and repent.

 

Sin no more!

 

Be a God pleaser and not to self-exonerate oneself

 

when you sin for goodness’ sake!”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“Yet, the National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS)

 

are keeping quiet for so long???

 

So sad for Singapore’s Christianity!!”

 

@edmundsim6251

 

“@lindsaylim5806 

 

Yeah. We can also see that these ‘Christians’

 

in New Creation Church

 

love Joseph Prince

 

more than the words of God and our lord Jesus Christ.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“@edmundsim6251 

 

Essentially, those who choose to stay on in New Creation Church

 

and follow Joseph Prince’s teachings

 

are narcissistic by nature.

 

His teachings are about how to make oneself great and significant

 

in the sight of men and not God.

 

It’s never about living for Christ and exalting Christ.

 

False gospel and false Christ promoted in New Creation Church.”

 

@1908great

 

“It’s about right and accurate teaching of the word

 

to get right believing and right living. 

 

It’s not simply right believing becoming right living.

 

God’s word did not say right believing to get right living.

 

This is Joseph Prince’s doctrine.”

 

@JaneTan-xu8os

 

Referring to Ex New Creation Church member,

 

Janice Lee’s testimony.

 

“A concise powerful testimony. Amen.”

 

@kampongkaporfsc6216

 

“This is not the case in America

 

where speaking out against false teachings are encouraged.

 

Justin Peters is one example of a pastor

 

who openly speaks up against false preachers in the US.”

 

@jimjam7487

 

“Truly, a false preacher.

 

No one will ever accuse Jesus for what he had done.”

 

@kevinjanghj

 

“Joseph Prince doesn’t want members

 

to read the Bible in its entirety

 

because he is a hyper grace gospel teacher,

 

and such teachers love to demonize the Old Testament.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“This is what is happening in New Creation Church

 

and any other churches that don’t continue in God’s truth.

 

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 ESV

[9] The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, [10] and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. [11] Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, [12] in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

@tanky815

 

“When I was attending New Creation Church regularly,

 

I said to myself,

 

if what Joseph Prince preaches in the pulpit is not true,

 

there are so many Christians before me and well learned,

 

surely, he can’t spout nonsense week in week out?

 

He can smoke me, but wouldn’t someone step out

 

to point out the inaccuracies

 

if what he preaches is incorrect?

 

It didn’t happen until so many years later;

 

thank you, Rev George Ong!

 

Now I am beginning to think was I being hinted

 

when someone told me why don’t I read the Bible myself.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“@tanky815

 

I had a similar experience while in New Creation Church.

 

To me, at that time, I was walking by my sight.

 

Since the church is so big and well-known internationally

 

Therefore, it should be the correct gospel.

 

Yet, within me, I had many questions to enquire

 

because of unexplained teachings of the word

 

by Joseph Prince and his other pastors as well.

 

When I finally took the courage to ask my care group leader,

 

it was immediately interrupted by him

 

and were told my question will be privately discussed later.

 

I was later asked

 

why did I want to question Joseph Prince’s teachings?

 

It was from that time I knew something was amiss

 

and all the while it was the Holy Spirit convicting me

 

to wake up and return to God.

 

Today, if anyone here also experiences the same convictions,

 

know that it is the goodness of the Lord

 

that wants to lead us to repentance

 

so that we can return to Him from our rebellion.”

 

@user-hd7qv8dx7x

 

“In reality, it’s not happening in New Creation Church.

 

Very few miracles.

 

Same as Benny Hinn crusades.

 

Not proven.

 

There are many assumptions

 

that Charismatic or crazymatics preachers

 

teaches that are out of line .

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“Joseph Prince should check his own leaders and faithful followers. 

 

How many, despite following the instructions

 

to take Holy Communion regularly

 

for health and vanity reasons, ended up sick,

 

needing surgery and in and out of hospital

 

in the last 5 years?

 

Please have the guts to check

 

and see if Holy Communion is indeed working

 

for these gullible followers?”

 

@vijayrem-mn6id

 

“In his book, Joseph Prince wrote that the Holy Communion 

 

“is more powerful than any medicine, antibiotic, or medical procedure”. 

 

The question arises

 

why didn’t he or his coterie declare to the world,

 

boldly and loudly, during the pandemic

 

that Holy Communion is more powerful than vaccination?

 

They could have constantly and insistently

 

reminded the world of their teaching. 

 

That could have been a golden opportunity

 

for him to seize the crown of glory

 

and show the world he is THE true apostle and prophet.

 

Why did he forsake that opportunity?

 

In fact, one of the New Creation Church preachers

 

did mention he contracted covid.

 

Most likely, he had forgotten at that moment

 

his master’s Holy Communion preaching,

 

unwittingly poking holes in his teaching.

 

A crisis does indeed test and reveal his sincerity.”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“If you still think that Joseph Prince is a great ‘disciple’

 

or the ‘disciple whom Jesus loved’,

 

please hear from his own mouth what he has to say here:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlDJEF7PHGo&t=13s

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QugpCLY9Jb8&t=12s

 

I don’t think we need to say much to CONCLUDE that:

 

1. he is not a disciple anymore,

 

2. and, he is not saved at all,

 

He has said it all from these 2 videos

 

that he can’t follow and won’t follow the teaching of Jesus,

 

and that he will change His words,

 

remove (or hinder) the conviction of the Holy Spirit,

 

and lie against the Holy Spirit.

 

What other proofs do we need to confirm that he is an antiChrist?

 

Obviously, until now he can’t answer and won’t answer

 

any question or criticism raised against his lies or heresies here.

 

He can only keep quiet

 

and hope that his fans will never check any social media

 

that expose him.

 

However, I think God has given us enough proofs

 

to decide if we should follow an antiChrist (like him),

 

or follow Jesus Christ.

 

Ultimately, salvation is BY HIS GRACE;

 

it is also BY OUR CHOICE!

 

Now what is your choice?”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“What does the Bible say about False Prophets?

 

God speaks harshly against false prophets,

 

occult practices, and other means of sorcery.

 

God describes a false prophet

 

as one who “presumes to speak in My name

 

anything I have not commanded,

 

or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods” (Deuteronomy 18:20).

 

In Jeremiah 14:14,

 

God says these evildoers prophesy lies,

 

offering “false visions, divinations, idolatries,

 

and the delusions of their own minds.”

 

I know Joseph Prince has denied himself as a prophet many times.

 

He wants us to believe a pastor like him

 

is different from a prophet in the OT.

 

Now let’s see what we can understand a prophet roll

 

and what it does.

 

“Prophet” in Hebrew = nabi

 

Strong’s Concordance

nabi: a SPOKESMAN , SPEAKER, PROPHET

 

Original Word: נָבִיא

Part of Speech: Noun Masculine

Transliteration: nabi

Phonetic Spelling: (naw-bee’)

Definition: a spokesman, speaker, prophet

 

Joseph Prince is hiding many truths from his congregation

 

while he washes his hands clean

 

thinking he could conveniently get away with it

 

by simply denying he is a prophet.

 

To God, no matter how many times

 

or how hard Joseph Prince has washed his hands

 

thinking he and the rest of his pastors

 

could get away from these evil lies,

 

it shall never be cleaned.

 

It is just temporarily covered up.

 

Those who still wants to follow his teachings

 

despite so many warnings, solid, proven testimonies

 

and solid evidence from Godly pastors

 

then they shall also fall into the same destruction

 

God has prepared for them.

 

Therefore, do not let our hearts be hardened

 

when God is speaking kindly to us to Repent

 

from our wicked ways.

 

Now there’s still time before it is too late.”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“Joseph Prince says that the Holy Communion

 

is the FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe43TFojh-E&t=601s and therefore, you can take it like it is a MEDICINE

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNNMHaol1gE&t=357s

 

Obviously, he wants you to believe it totally;

 

otherwise, why would he take Botox,

 

take health supplements, take hair treatments,

 

take advice from his hair stylists,

 

take branded clothing and shoes,

 

take good care of himself to look young,

 

and even take ‘cat walk’ to the pulpit?

 

Obviously, he takes a lot more ‘self-effort’

 

to ensure that he always looks good

 

every time he walks to his pulpit.

 

However, do you know that immediately

 

after he promoted his FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH,

 

he said that you must still take medicines,

 

see the doctors, or listen to the advice of the doctors

 

WHEN YOU GET SICK?

 

What???

 

It’s a shock to me when I heard that.

 

I thought if we really have the FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH

 

or a MEDICINE that can cure all kinds of sickness,

 

we should never get sick and never need to see any doctor.

 

Obviously, he is lying to you

 

when he tries to ‘promote’ his FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH to you.

 

Let’s assume that you went to a health product company

 

and really bought such a FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH

 

or MEDICINE at an exorbitant price

 

from a good-looking salesman

 

who convinced you that he has the youthful look

 

because he drinks it too,

 

would you just drink it occasionally?

 

No, of course, you would want to take it every day

 

because you were totally convinced by him

 

and you bought it with an exorbitant price.

 

Now, please think again.

 

What if that salesman tells you (immediately after you bought it)

 

that you must still continue to take your medication

 

because of your conditions

 

(e.g. high blood pressure, heart attacks, diabetes, or old age symptoms)

 

and that you must see your doctor

 

if anything goes wrong too?

 

I don’t know what you will think,

 

but I will just throw his FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH

 

into the dustbin and ask for a refund.

 

Similarly, if a preacher told me that what he preaches

 

is a FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH

 

and I believed him totally

 

and paid an exorbitant sum of money (to his ‘God’),

 

I would tell him that his ‘God’ is a liar

 

and ask for a refund too.

 

Of course, he would tell us

 

that we should go and get the refund from his ‘God’;

 

not from him.

 

So, in the end, we have only ourselves to be blamed

 

when such a ‘snake-oil seller’

 

or false preacher knew how to cover his back

 

and shift all the blame to his ‘God’

 

when his ‘God’ could not even perform the miracle

 

or deliver the FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH effects

 

as promised in the ‘sales’.

 

However, I think it is still possible to do something

 

because, for real commercial transactions,

 

we can just bring it up to CASE (The Consumers Association of Singapore

 

which is a non-profit, non-governmental organisation

 

that is committed towards promoting consumer interest).

 

However, for the cases

 

which do not involve commercial deals or direct cheating,

 

we can only pray that there is such an ‘association’ or ‘council’

 

which is similar to CASE and that they are willing to help us.”

 

Note this comment is a critique of my website:

 

@aloha548

 

“Your fleshly comments make me sick,

 

100% not from the Holy Spirit.

 

Seems you created for yourselves a ministry of condemnation

 

to tear down and not build up.

 

Total evidences of non born again Sunday Christians.

 

This the Lord forbids.

 

Easily check your spirits with the Holy Spirit

 

and they are not in synchronization,

 

totally out from the flesh.”

 

These are the comments of those

 

who wrote against the above critic:

 

@user-iu3dm5qk7p

 

“Another brainwashed case.

 

A victim of manipulation.

 

A victim of a master of false appearance.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“@aloha548, hi beloved,

 

thank you very much for your kind and gracious comments.

 

May we kindly ask you to clearly point us out

 

which comments that make you sick and 100% not Holy Spirit.

 

Would appreciate you can plainly show us?

 

Thank you very much.”

 

@veralinc8117

 

“Fren, don’t just make comments like that.

 

Justify your statements.

 

Prove them right with Scripture.

 

Prove where the pastors

 

who spoke here have gone unscriptural.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“Can you tell us what the Holy Spirit tells you

 

about Joseph Prince and New Creation Church?

 

@edmundsim6251

 

“I may be a Christian for 40 years

 

and in your eyes, I don’t mind being a non born again Christian

 

and one that is with the flesh,

 

if it means exposing a false teacher like Joseph Prince

 

that is corrupting and twisting the words of Jesus Christ and his Apostles.

 

When Jesus went to teach in his father’s place (the synagogue),

 

he was furious that the merchants

 

had turned the temple grounds

 

into a place for the merchants.

 

New Creation Church did the same precise thing at Star Vista.

 

With the donations, New Creation Church

 

didn’t build God a house

 

and instead seek to invest and profit from it.

 

Not only that, Joseph Prince didn’t even keep the hall for sermons

 

as a consecrated place for the Lord alone

 

but he rent it out to the Drag Queen.

 

You don’t mix Devil Teaching with Christians

 

that feel grievous for Jesus

 

that our Lord’s teaching has been so twisted

 

into a counterfeit Bible

 

for you are not of Christ

 

when you are defending false teachers.

 

Whether we are flesh or not,

 

it doesn’t change the tongue-twisting nature of New Creation Church

 

and the people that it corrupted with its new teachings

 

against the right teaching of Jesus and his Apostles.

 

False teachers such as Joseph Prince

 

are Satan’s agents to lead people away from Jesus.

 

They seem to preach Jesus, the gospel and the Spirit,

 

but in reality, they are seducing people

 

with a counterfeit Jesus, gospel and spirit.

 

In other words, it is the doctrine of the demons.

 

By denying sound doctrines of the Bible

 

and to go into another version of the Bible,

 

can you still call yourself a follower of Christ and our brothers?

 

Despites so many evidences?

 

Joseph Prince has been using the Lord’s name in vain.

 

In his numerous sermons,

 

he often says, the Lord says to me, the Lord says to me….

 

do you think it is true?

 

Where are the signs to show

 

that he is a true prophet

 

and that the Lord really says to him?

 

Study your Bible! Strengthen your Spirits!

 

I know I sound harsh

 

but I want to reply to a sick comment

 

with an equal brutal comment

 

to show who is the really sick person here.”

 

@lorrainloh2252

 

“@edmundsim6251, exactly my thoughts.

 

That’s what made me leave after 22 years in New Creation Church.

 

I was a sleeping believer.”

 

@user-iu3dm5qk7p

 

“@lorrainloh2252 Sad fact.

 

While the members are sleeping,

 

they are laughing…to the bank.

 

Pity those innocent, Bible-ignorant villagers in Cambodia,

 

the Philippines and Thailand

 

listening to unsound doctrine.”

 

Note this comment is a critique of my website:

 

@cheong5393

 

“If you guys do not agree with Joseph Prince,

 

you guys should go confront him ..

 

not to publicise the issue.

 

This is not what Christ wants, disunity within his church. 

 

We should pray about it first,

 

before using the Carnal mind to deal with issue. 

 

The reason today, Christians do not see revivals,

 

is because of disunity in the church.

 

Is exactly what Satan want.”

 

These are the comments of those

 

who wrote against the above critic:

 

@edmundsim6251

 

“What you are saying, is exactly what Satan wants,

 

to sweep everything under the carpet.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“Obviously, you didn’t know

 

that God sent numerous ones to speak to Joseph Prince

 

over the past decade or more (both local and overseas)

 

but he remained unrepentant

 

and instead became worse

 

and boasted against God and God’s Words.

 

He reminds me of Lucifer who thinks he’s smarter than God.

 

Changed all the original meaning of the Bible to his Satanic heresies.

 

That is why Joseph Prince doesn’t encourage New Creation Church folks

 

to read their own Bibles. 

 

He behaves as the ‘un-holy spirit’

 

for New Creation Church folks

 

and interpret all the heresies to poison them.

 

True believers depend on the Holy Spirit

 

to read and understand the Bible.

 

So, it’s plain to see New Creation Church

 

is nothing but a cult that embraces Joseph Prince’s heresies.”

 

@vijayrem-mn6id

 

“How do you know others are carnal

 

and you are not carnal?

 

Have you given the same “non-carnal” advice

 

to the other world channels,

 

which have their own large following,

 

that are also exposing Joseph Prince?

 

Are you saying unity at all cost

 

and truth plays second fiddle?

 

Are you saying confront the false preacher

 

but do not reveal to the public

 

and the thousands deceived to alert them,

 

and keep all deception under wraps?

 

Are you doing justice to the multitude

 

that do not realise they are deceived?

 

Have you prayed about it and told Jesus and Paul

 

that, for the sake of unity,

 

they should not have publicly warned of false teachers

 

for then no one would know false teachers are a fact

 

and there would be unity?”

 

@vijayrem-mn6id

 

1 Tim 5:20 ESV

“As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear”

 

Paul called out false teachers. He named them.

 

“Their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus” 2 Tim 2:17 ESV

 

Don’t take this propagation of false teaching casually,

 

especially in this internet age

 

when lies spread with lightning speed.

 

Multitudes are cheated and destroyed.

 

Hope you are not implying

 

that whilst preachers be confronted, 

 

the multitude be kept in the dark, be not alerted;

 

that the truth they have been deceived all these years

 

be buried and hidden from them.”

 

@glennfong984

 

“By your standards,

 

then Paul should not confront Peter in Galatians 2.”

 

@user-vo3iy4ur6d

 

“2 John. 1 Verses 9 to 11

[10] If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: [11] For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

 

Joseph Prince is a proven heretic multiple times over

 

and over a wide range of Bible doctrines

 

and over 3 decades.

 

He is evidently biblically not saved

 

because no one alive by the Spirit of God

 

would spew out almost countless heresies etc.

 

He is serving Mammon and not God

 

and Matthew said such a one hates God,

 

be warned by above verse.

 

He lets LGBTQ performance on the same stage

 

that is used for Sunday “services” (service to whom?)

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