Joseph Prince must account for the more than 100 people as to whether they are healed or not, this Sunday, 3 days from now, on 27 Oct 2024, when he prayed for them, last Sunday, 4 days ago, on 20 Oct 2024
– By Rev George Ong (Dated 24 Oct 2024)
Excerpt from the Article:
In conclusion and summary,
I believe that God has allowed Joseph Prince
to be trapped in his own game.
All of you must remember this incident
on 20 Oct 2024, 4 days ago,
when he was so-called led by the Lord
to ask those with knee problems to stand
to be prayed by him.
At least 100 people stood;
and if we count those who are not captured on camera,
especially those seated on the higher floors of the auditorium,
the figures must have come to a few or even several hundreds.
In no uncertain terms,
Joseph Prince has to account
for these hundreds of people who stood
as to whether they are healed or not?
For Joseph Prince to vindicate himself
that he is not a scammer on healing,
and for the reasons I have given,
at least half of them must be healed.
It would be interesting to see how Joseph Prince
is going wriggle himself out of this tight corner
and play this game out
this Sunday, 27 Oct 2024, which is 3 days from now,
and the following Sundays.
If Joseph Prince were to play the game
and announced this Sunday, 27 Oct 2024
that there are plenty of testimonies
of people healed of their knees on 20 Oct 2024,
then the vital question to ask is
why didn’t he dare to ask those who have been healed
by raising their hands to testify
as he always does on all Sundays
when he does his healing,
on that Sunday itself, 20 Oct 2024,
after he prayed for them.
(Lest Joseph Prince falsely accuses and slanders us again for preaching against healing, don’t be deceived. No, we are not against healing. Like most Singapore Pastors, we are for healing, but not his false teaching that God must and will heal in every case. God is sovereign and He chooses who to heal.)
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
In a sermon on 20 Oct 2024, 4 days ago,
Joseph Prince said;
“I want to pray for you for knee conditions,
is it okay?
As I said that just now,
the Lord says, ya, that’s the reason why
He’s giving me this again and again.
The knee condition.
You got a knee condition, just stand to your feet.
We want to pray for you, okay. Hallelujah.
If your knees are in,
you have problem with your knees,
your knees, your k..n..e..e..s,
not your niece, your nephew, niece, okay.
Your knees.
You got to be specific. Alright.
Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Thank you, Lord.
‘Father, in the name of the Lord Jesus,
I command every knee under the sound of my voice
that is afflicted
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Every part of that knee that has degenerated,
I ask Lord that you regenerate.
You restore to health and shalom wholeness.
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,
do a miracle, Father.
Do a miracle
for every one of them, Lord,
that is believing you right now.
Restore their knees
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Cause the fluid, the fluid to start flowing back again
in its right portion, in its right amount.
In the name of Jesus,
let everything Lord, that has fallen, Lord, into disuse
be restored in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And Father,
I command every pain to leave the knees
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
And in the name of Jesus, Father,
give them brand new knees.
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I ask.
And all the people say, Amen.’
You may be seated.
Now listen.
That is not through the gifts of the Holy Spirit
which happens whether you have faith or not.
This, your faith.
Now you have received.
Listened, you have received.
That means it’s like the dynamite power is now inside you,
you have received it.
So, keep on saying,
‘I’m healed by the stripes of Jesus, I’m healed.’
Now the devil will do a counterattack.
He’ll tell you, at the first sign of pain, he’ll say,
‘No, you are not healed,’
you see.
You know what you do.
Go for a walk. Amen. Walk.
And then when you feel the pain,
what do you do?
He (devil) says,
‘Uuh men, you are not healed.’
You say,
‘I am healed.’
Go for a walk.
Right, but it will always manifest,
first 30-fold, 60-fold in the words of Jesus, 100-fold.
Right, that’s what Jesus said. Amen.
100-fold means what?
Everything is okay. Everything is alright.
30-fold, you still have that portion;
that’s quite a large portion, 30-fold,
70-fold, not healed yet.
But once you come to 60-fold,
wow, you got a lot more healing
than the condition that you have.
So, that’s how it manifest.
I believe many of you have received new knees.
Praise the Lord. Amen.”
Since I have exposed Joseph Prince about his healing scam,
and his frequent use of ‘someone’ has a leg problem
and ‘someone’ has a neck problem,
and so on and so forth,
he has stopped his usual healing games
that he normally does before he preaches the sermon
about prophesying
‘someone has this sickness’ and ‘someone has that illness’ etc,
for the past 2 Sundays when he was preaching.
(Not that he won’t do the same in future Sundays,
but, at least, he has not done it for 2 Sundays.)
Joseph Prince is probably now in a fix
at how to proceed regarding his healing thing.
But 4 days ago, 20 Oct 2024 at the worship service,
Joseph Prince said the Lord tells him
to pray for those with knee condition
and he asked those with knee problems to stand.
In my estimate, at least 100 people stood.
If you look at the 4 screenshots,
my estimate of at least 100 people
is on the conservative side.
For the 4 screenshots,
This is because
those seated on the higher floors of the auditorium
are probably not captured in the video
and also, not every nook and corner of the auditorium
is captured by the cameraman.
So, can you see this proves my point
that when Joseph Prince prophesy about someone
who has knee problem,
that someone could refer to hundreds of people
in his congregation
as proven in this episode.
And Joseph Prince can never be proven wrong
unless he calls out the name of the person
who has a knee problem,
or point the person out from the audience
who has that knee problem.
Has it occurred to you
that if Joseph Prince is so gifted in healing,
and his emphasis is on the healing of the bodies
for the last 30 years,
and he has been praying for his people to be healed
week in and week out on most Sundays,
why are there still so many who are beset with knee problems.
Here we are talking about just one condition – knees.
But if you add up those with other medical problems,
such as neck problems, heart problems, etc,
the number who are afflicted with such health problems
would be massive.
I am, of course, not saying churches
should not be faced with such health problems.
But what I am driving at
is that in the light of Joseph Prince’s frequent claim
that he has healed so many in the last 30 years of his ministry,
why are there so many in his church who are still not healed.
The next question one needs to ask is
why didn’t Joseph Prince give time
for at least some of them who stood up to be prayed for
to testify about their healing.
Certainly, it would have been the perfect moment
for Joseph Prince to vindicate himself
regarding his healing gifting.
But he didn’t dare to do it as he knew it could be a total flop.
When Joseph Prince asked those with knee problems to stand,
he was probably too shocked to know
there were so many who stood.
So, probably to make sure that not more would stand
and, hopefully, some of those who stood may sit down,
he had to make the following statement;
“If your knees are in, you have problem with your knees,
your knees, your k…n…e…e…s,
not your niece, your nephew niece, okay.
Your knees.
You got to be specific. Alright.”
After Joseph Prince had prayed
for the healing of those who stood,
he immediately made the following statement;
“Now listen.
That is not through the gifts of the Holy Spirit
which happens whether you have faith or not.
This, your faith.”
What Joseph Prince is saying
is that if healing is done through the gifts of the Holy Spirit,
one would be healed whether he or she has faith or not.
But because what he has just prayed
is not through the gifts of the Holy Spirit,
it takes faith to be healed
even though the prayer of healing is prayed by him.
What rubbish is Joseph Prince spewing out?
You are intelligent enough to know
that Joseph Prince is setting up an excuse for himself
that for those out of the more than 100 people
who are not healed of their knee condition
even though he had prayed,
he would say that these people did not receive their healing
because of their lack of faith.
Can you see how evil Joseph Prince is?
If a member of his church was healed,
Joseph Prince would be the first to rush forward
to claim the credit,
and make sure his or her testimony
is being read out in the worship services,
and he will also make sure
that his name is always mentioned
in the testimony without failed.
But if a healing did not take place,
Joseph Prince would blame the person for his lack faith.
The distinction that Joseph Prince made
between healing done through the gifts of the Holy Spirit
and healing that is not done through the gifts of the Holy Spirit
is absolute rubbish, totally weird, wholly unbiblical
and not found anywhere in the scriptures.
And as if that is not enough,
Joseph Prince tried to cover himself
by alluding to the 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold principle
that scripture mentions.
His view is that not all healings
would be 100 percent or 100-fold.
Some may be 30-fold healed, while others, 60-fold healed.
Because there were so many people
who stood up to be prayed for,
Joseph Prince knew he had to come up
with this 30-fold and 60-fold thing
and used it as an excuse.
So, he could explain why so many are not healed yet, immediately
– as they may be 30-fold healed,
and then wait for a period of time to be 60-fold healed,
and then wait for ‘don’t know how long’
for it to be 100-fold healed.
And by then, people would have forgotten this episode
that Joseph Prince had prayed for more than 100 people
for their knee problems,
and yet many didn’t get healed.
And some of you may not be aware
that nowhere in the scriptures
is healing associated
with this 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold principle
that Joseph Prince has churned up.
This principle of 30-fold, 60-fold and 100-fold
appears in the Parable of the Sower
in Matthew 13:8, 23, Mark 4:8, 20 and Luke 8:8.
It has to do with how those who receive the word
produces different effects on people
– some 30-fold, others 60-fold, and yet others, 100-fold.
But it has nothing to do with healing.
And there is no scripture
that links this idea with healing.
So, Joseph Prince has again used Bible texts
which this principle appears,
out of its context,
and apply indiscriminately to healing.
Hence, his reputation as a serial hypocrite
– that he repeatedly breaks the same rule
of interpreting a text in its context
that he exhorts others to observe
is ‘double confirmed’.
But what is worse is Joseph Prince gave the false impression
that it was Jesus who said that the 30-fold, 60-fold, 100-fold,
relate to healing
when he said;
“Right, but it will always manifest,
first 30-fold, 60-fold in the words of Jesus, 100-fold.
Right, that’s what Jesus said. Amen.”
But as I have already pointed out,
these have nothing to do with healing.
When Jesus heals,
He never says such and such a person
is 30-fold healed or 60-fold healed.
He just healed them, period.
Every healing of Jesus is a 100-fold healing.
Let’s picture what’s going to happen
in the next worship service on 27 Oct 2024,
3 days from now.
To save face,
Joseph Prince would have to feature several testimonies
this coming Sunday, 27 Oct 2024
– about those who were healed of their knees
because Joseph Prince prayed for them
4 days ago, on 20 Oct 2024.
But what about the rest of the more than 100 people
who didn’t testify by writing in?
Joseph Prince’s ploy would be to feature a portion of them later
with the explanation
that the many who were also healed,
only experienced the 100-fold healing much later.
But we must never accept such lame excuses from Joseph Prince.
Joseph Prince must produce the immediate results of healings
for the following reasons:
First, Joseph Prince said it was the Lord who spoke to him
about praying for the knee condition
when he said;
“As I said that just now,
the Lord says, ya, that’s the reason why
He’s giving me this again and again.
The knee condition.”
Second, do you know how many times
did Joseph Prince invoke the name of Jesus Christ
when he prayed for the healing of the people?
Nine times:
‘Father, in the name of the Lord Jesus,
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
In the name of Jesus,
be restored in the name of the Lord Jesus.
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
And in the name of Jesus, Father,
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I ask.’
So, how can the authority and supremacy
which is behind the name of Christ
that is mentioned 9 times by Joseph Prince
not be powerful enough to heal immediately,
but has to wait for a later period to reach the 100-fold healing
at the choosing of Joseph Prince?
Third, examine the commanding manner,
and the use of the word, ‘every’
that Joseph Prince prayed:
1st
“Father, in the name of the Lord Jesus,
I command every knee under the sound of my voice
that is afflicted
to be now made whole
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.”
2nd
“Every part of that knee that has degenerated,
I ask Lord that you regenerate.
You restore to health and shalom wholeness.”
3rd
“In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,
do a miracle, Father.
Do a miracle
for every one of them, Lord.”
4th
“And Father,
I command every pain to leave the knees
in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.”
5th
“And in the name of Jesus, Father,
give them brand new knees.
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, I ask.”
Assuming that Joseph Prince is truly gifted in healing
and a man of God,
plus, the fact that he has invoked
the powerful name of Jesus Christ 9 times to heal,
don’t you think such commanding and specific prayers
would be answered by God?
Am I being unfair to Joseph Prince?
Of course not.
This is because Joseph Prince’s own healing doctrine
states that God will heal in every case.
In 2 sermons, Joseph Prince said;
“You see, it’s not I’m trying to be healed,
Pastor Prince,
for many, many, many years now,
I’m trying to be healed.
Friend, you got it wrong,
you’re not trying to be healed.
You are the healed.
You are the healed.
Then why am I having the sickness?
The devil is trying to steal your healing.
And the devil wants your mentality
to be that you are not healed.
Are you with me so far?”
“The devil wants you to think
there’s a place called ‘healed’
and you are not healed.
There’s a place called ‘healed’.
You see, you must do your best to go there.
And he will try to bring in;
but you must be obedient enough to reach there.
You must be holy enough to reach there.
You must be good enough to reach there.
And you are never there.
Actually, that’s not the truth.
The truth is you’re already there.
You are the healed
and the devil is trying to take your healing.
And you’re saying
‘No, this is a lying symptom.’
‘No Lord, this is your battle.’
‘I’m already healed.’
‘This is your battle, Lord.’
‘I’m already healed.’
This is your battle, Lord.’
‘I’m already healed.’
It’s not like you are trying to take your healing.
No, the devil is trying to take your healing.”
What Joseph Prince is saying
is to accept that you are already healed,
no matter what
because he teaches that
God will heal and must heal every believer.
(By the way, most Singapore Pastors are against such a teaching, as they recognise, that finally, it is God’s sovereignty that decides who gets healed and who does not.)
Because of all the reasons I have given,
and what I have painstakingly explained,
Joseph Prince would have to produce concrete results
of at least half of the more than 100 people who are healed,
and we would expect these people to testify of their healing
this coming Sunday on 27 Oct 2024.
Of course, time doesn’t permit
for all of their testimonies to be read
in the worship service,
but Joseph Prince needs to tell us
how many have written and submitted their testimonies
in the next service on 27 Oct 2024, 3 days from now.
If Joseph Prince cannot produce the results
this coming Sunday,
he is ‘double confirmed’ to be a scammer.
Finally, I have more proof
that Joseph Prince is asking his people
to lie about their healing
when he said in the worship service
on 20 Oct 2024, 4 days ago;
“And then when you feel the pain,
what do you do?
… You say,
‘I am healed.’
If there is pain, it is clear symptom that one isn’t healed,
yet, despite that,
Joseph Prince is asking them to lie
by declaring they are healed.
One more piece of evidence that I have not featured before.
In a sermon on 22 Sep 2024, Joseph Prince said;
“Act like you are healed,
and you will find yourself healed.”
That being the case,
one cannot even trust the testimonies
that Joseph Prince featured
about those who are healed
in the worship services.
Am I applying the trick,
“I’m damned if I do; I’m damned if I don’t.”
Of course not.
Joseph Prince has brought it on himself.
This is plainly because Joseph Prince has asked them to lie
by declaring they are healed when they aren’t
because there is still pain.
And as these people are writing their testimonies
to be featured in the worship services,
many will follow Joseph Prince’s advice:
“Act like you are healed,
and you will find yourself healed.”
So, as they write their testimonies,
they will act like they are healed
even though they aren’t;
with the hope that that is an exercise of faith
that will eventually get them healed.
In conclusion and summary,
I believe that God has allowed Joseph Prince
to be trapped in his own game.
All of you must remember this incident
on 20 Oct 2024, 4 days ago,
when he was so-called led by the Lord
to ask those with knee problems to stand
to be prayed by him.
At least 100 people stood;
and if we count those who are not captured on camera,
especially those seated on the higher floors of the auditorium,
the figures must have come to a few or even several hundreds.
In no uncertain terms,
Joseph Prince has to account
for these hundreds of people who stood
as to whether they are healed or not?
For Joseph Prince to vindicate himself
that he is not a scammer on healing,
and for the reasons I have given,
at least half of them must be healed.
It would be interesting to see how Joseph Prince
is going wriggle himself out of this tight corner
and play this game out
this Sunday, 27 Oct 2024, which is 3 days from now,
and the following Sundays.
If Joseph Prince were to play the game
and announced this Sunday, 27 Oct 2024
that there are plenty of testimonies
of people healed of their knees on 20 Oct 2024,
then the vital question to ask is
why didn’t he dare to ask those who have been healed
by raising their hands to testify
as he always does on all Sundays
when he does his healing,
on that Sunday itself, 20 Oct 2024,
after he prayed for them.
(Lest Joseph Prince falsely accuses and slanders us again for preaching against healing, don’t be deceived. No, we are not against healing. Like most Singapore Pastors, we are for healing, but not his false teaching that God must and will heal in every case. God is sovereign and He chooses who to heal.)
Rev George Ong