Joseph Prince Lied Again – that Every Believer can Live Long Life and that he Honours Martyrs – By Rev George Ong (Dated 24 August 2022)
Don’t miss what I have written in the Afternote at the end of this article.
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
“There is a word, a passage in the Bible that talks about itself, the power of God’s word. It says in Proverbs 4. The first part, verse 10, ‘Hear, my son’ and God is talking to His family isn’t it? ‘Hear, my son, receive my sayings, And the years of your life will be many.’” (Prov 4:10)
So people say things like, ‘God doesn’t want every Christian to have long life and all that.’ Then why tease us like this. Why tease us? You tell me to read the Bible. Then when I read the Bible, the Bible tells me this and you tell me, it’s not for us. Dah!
When I read the Bible, the Bible says about length of days, long life and peace shall be add to thee. Ya, there are some who are called to martyrdom and we honour them. But that’s not the norm. The norm is that you live your life and God wants you longer here because the longer you are here with all the knowledge that you have and what you have learnt from the Lord, you can pass on to the next generation.
If everyone wants to go home to be with Jesus, hey God doesn’t actually need your ministry there, you know. Jesus is there. The angels are all there. He needs your ministry here. You need to live long here.”
1. Joseph Prince Lied Again when he teaches that the promise to live long life is an unconditional promise for every New Covenant believer.
Joseph Prince said,
“So people say things like, ‘God doesn’t want every Christian to have long life and all that.’ Then why tease us like this. Why tease us? You tell me to read the Bible. Then when I read the Bible, the Bible tells me this and you tell me, it’s not for us. Dah!”
George Ong said,
“So people say things like, ‘God wants every Christian to live a long life because it is an unconditional promise.’ You tell me to read the Bible because it’s found there. Then when I read the Bible, I could hardly find any Old Testament or New Testament scripture that supports your claim. In fact, most passages state there are conditions to the promise of long life, and yet, you tell me long life is for every New Covenant believer without any conditions. Dodo!”
If you ask me, “George, why are you speaking in ‘parables’?
Well, you have to ask Joseph Prince who started it first when he said ‘Dah’, and I am only following his example when I said ‘Dodo’.
Joseph Prince quoted Proverbs 4:10 to support his case that the blessing of long life is an unconditional promise for every New Covenant believer. (By the way, this is what Prince teaches in many of his other sermons.)
If the promise is for every New Covenant believer, why didn’t Prince use the New Testament to prove his case?
Why did Prince have to resort to an Old Testament text in Proverbs 4:10 under the Old Covenant, to support his long life-is-for-every-New-Covenant-believer teaching?
I thought Prince has frequently said and taught that the Old Covenant before the cross is not applicable to New Covenant believers after the cross.
In the light of the above, when passages in the Old Testament go against his teaching, Prince would say,
“Oh, these are Old Covenant passages and they aren’t relevant to New Covenant believers.”
But when Old Covenant passages suit his grace theology, like in this case when he invoked Proverbs 4:10 as the basis to teach that long life is for every New Covenant believer, Prince would say,
“Well, though it is an Old Covenant passage, it can be seen through New Covenant lenses, and interpreted in the light of the New Covenant and Christ’s death on the cross.”
This is yet another case of blatant double-talking, proving that Joseph Prince, is indeed, a serial double-talker.
The truth is there isn’t any New Testament verse that supports Prince’s teaching that the promise for every New Covenant believer to live a long life is unconditional.
That’s why Prince has to resort to an Old Testament text in Proverbs 4:10 to prove his case, thinking that his case is now watertight, and his critics cannot catch him on this. And no wonder, he thought he could hit his critics with a ‘Dah’, as they couldn’t have been able to mount any comeback against him (but which I did, when I said ‘Dodo’ to him).
But Prince is only having a dream as I have caught him again – that he is using a half-truth to prove the whole truth.
“A half-truth is nothing but a hidden lie.” (George Ong)
“Posturing a half-truth as the whole truth is the most inconspicuous way of concealing a lie.” (George Ong)
“The best way to tell a lie that goes unnoticed is not to tell what is false but to hide what is true.” (George Ong)
“The half-truth strategy is powerfully effective at deceiving people because while most people seem to be seeing the whole truth, they don’t realise they are only seeing half of it.” (George Ong)
What Joseph Prince is doing is that he had quoted the half-truth of Proverbs 4:10, but he has deceptively hidden from you the other half of the truth in Proverbs 4:4:
Proverbs 4:10 NKJV
10 Hear, my son, and receive my sayings, And the years of your life will be many.
Proverbs 4:4 NKJV
4 He also taught me, and said to me: “Let your heart retain my words; Keep my commands, and live.
Ultimately, even in Proverbs chapter 4, particularly for Proverbs 4:4 and 4:10, the promise of long life isn’t an unconditional promise for every Old Covenant believer.
The promise of long life is conditioned upon whether an Old Covenant believer keeps the commandments of God in Proverbs 4:4:
Proverbs 4:4 NKJV
4 He also taught me, and said to me: “Let your heart retain my words; Keep my commands, and live.
If he keeps or obeys God’s commands, as the verse promises, he will live.
But if he does not keep or obey God’s commands, not only will he not enjoy a long life, but he may even die and not live.
Please refer to Deuteronomy 28, a foundational Old Testament passage about God’s dealings with His Old Covenant people – that obedience of His people would bring about God’s blessings and disobedience would incur His curses. Such curses would include diseases, calamities and even death.
Death means their lives would be cut short – meaning the blessing of long life would be taken away from them, if they disobey God.
Joseph Prince said in the video,
“‘Hear my son’, and God is talking to His family, isn’t it?”
In the same way, in Proverbs 4:1-4 NKJV, especially V1 and 4,
Proverbs 4:1-4 NKJV
1 Hear, my children, the instruction of a father, And give attention to know understanding;
2 For I give you good doctrine: Do not forsake my law.
3 When I was my father’s son, Tender and the only one in the sight of my mother,
4 He also taught me, and said to me: “Let your heart retain my words; Keep my commands, and live,
God, in these 2 verses of Proverbs 4:1 and 4 (as in Proverbs 4:10 that Joseph Prince alludes to), is also talking to His family.
One must note that the promise of long life is not an unconditional promise for every believer, even under the Old Covenant – not only in Proverbs 4:4 & 10, but also in many Old Testament passages.
If one compares Proverbs 4:10 that Joseph Prince has quoted, with Proverbs 4:4 and the 3 passages in Proverbs 10:27, 3:1-2 and 9:10-11 in the above in the same book of Proverbs, it must mean that the condition of obeying God must be satisfied before the promise of long life can be fulfilled.
If not, the scriptures in Proverbs will run into a contradiction: One passage in Proverbs 4:10 says – no condition for long life, and another 4 passages in Proverbs 4:4, 10:27, 3:1-2 and 9:10-11, say – there are conditions to be observed.
This is not all, as there are also other passages in the above list, besides Proverbs, such as that clearly state that there are conditions to be observed before the promise of long life can be claimed.
Joseph Prince is such a dishonest Grace preacher that not only has he hidden the other half of the truth in Proverbs 4:4 from you, but he has also kept Proverbs 10:27, 3:1-2, 9:10-11,
Many would point to Ephesians 3:1-3, but this passage also comes with the condition that one should obey and honour his parents before the blessing of long life could be claimed:
Yes, there are promises in the Bible about the blessings of long life.
But there isn’t anywhere in the entire Bible that teaches that the blessing of long life is an unconditional promise for every believer, both in the Old Covenant and the New.
For Joseph Prince to teach that the promise of long life is an unconditional promise for every believer, which isn’t true at all from the witness of scripture, is tantamount to telling a lie!
Joseph Prince is proven to be a serial-liar as he had, once again, lied against the scriptures!
2. Joseph Prince Lied that He Honours those who are called to Martyrdom.
Joseph Prince said:
“So people say things like, ‘God doesn’t want every Christian to have long life and all that.’ Then why tease us like this. Why tease us? You tell me to read the Bible. Then when I read the Bible, the Bible tells me this and you tell me, it’s not for us. Dah!
When I read the Bible, the Bible says about length of days, long life and peace shall be add to thee. Ya, there are some who are called to martyrdom and we honour them.”
Joseph Prince said he honours those who are called to martyrdom.
Has Joseph Prince preached any full sermon on the glories of martyrdom in honour of them?
If Prince really honours these martyrs, why hasn’t he preached a single sermon about the glories of martyrdom in honour of them in his 30 years of ministry?
As a matter of fact, as I shall show you in the ensuing discussion, he preaches against martyrdom!
‘Dodo’, haha, caught him with his pants down for yet another of his double talk!
If Joseph Prince, being a super-grace teacher, can ungraciously say ‘Dah’ to his critics, I am sure he will be gracious enough to allow us (whom he called as law-preachers) to return him a favour by saying ‘Dodo’ to him.
If you do not understand what I mean by saying ‘Dodo’ to him, you have to first ask Prince what he means by saying ‘Dah’ to his critics.
Let me show you more proof why I have to say ‘Dodo’ to Joseph Prince:
Andrew Tan, who was with New Creation Church for 20 years, and as part of his testimony why he left New Creation Church, wrote:
Yvonne Tan, who was with New Creation Church for 20 years, and as part of her testimony why she left New Creation Church, wrote:
Glenn Fong, who was with New Creation Church for 15 years, and as part of his testimony why he left New Creation Church, wrote:
From what these 3 Ex New Creation Church members have shared, do you think Joseph Prince’s claim that he honours those who are called to martyrdom, is true?
Who do I trust to be speaking the truth?
I’d rather trust these 3 Ex New Creation Church members, who had been in the church – one for 15 years and two for 20 years, rather than a serial-liar like Joseph Prince.
Hence, Joseph Prince’s claim that he honours those who are called to martyrdom is one big bluff.
Not only will I say ‘Dodo’ to him (as Prince has said ‘Dah’ to us), I am also saying Joseph Prince is a lying ‘Dodo’, as one who really honours martyrs who have died for the sake of Christ, will never say and teach what these 3 Ex New Creation Church members have rightfully accused him of.
What Joseph Prince means is that if Stephen had not uttered the prayer
Is this what Joseph Prince means by honouring those who are called to martyrdom?
If Prince did not honour the first martyr of the Christian Church, Stephen, but castigated him for saying the prayer, how can people ever believe that Prince is one who honours those who are called to martyrdom?
Joseph Prince had lied again!
3. Joseph Prince is Starting to Act like God.
Joseph Prince said,
“Ya, there are some who are called to martyrdom and we honour them. But that’s not the norm. The norm is that you live your life and God wants you longer here because the longer you are here with all the knowledge that you have and what you have learnt from the Lord, you can pass on to the next generation. If everyone wants to go home to be with Jesus, hey God doesn’t actually need your ministry there, you know. Jesus is there. The angels are all there. He needs your ministry here. You need to live long here.”
Joseph Prince is starting to act like God, when he claimed that it is the norm for believers to live long lives and implying that those who died before their time are not needed by God in heaven.
My friends, life and death are sacred issues, which are not in Joseph Prince’s hands to be bandied about, but they belong to God and Him alone.
Only God decides how long or short a believer should live.
And for believers who live short lives, are they to be blamed and shamed as Joseph Prince had done in what he said?
I mean, can believers decide how long or short one ought to live? Can they determine the length of their days on earth?
Ridiculously, from the above video excerpt, Joseph Prince seems to imply that they could decide when they are to die.
(In a real sense, Joseph Prince really means that believers can decide when they are to die, as He had already quoted the case of Stephen that he needn’t have to die that early and enjoy his long life on earth, if he didn’t pray,
But are believers in control of how long they can live on earth?
Of course not!
It is God who finally decides.
If God is the one who decides how long each believer would live, then why is Joseph Prince mocking and shaming those who die young:
“If everyone wants to go home to be with Jesus, hey God doesn’t actually need your ministry there, you know. Jesus is there. The angels are all there. He needs your ministry here. You need to live long here.”
By mocking and shaming them, Prince is actually mocking and shaming God.
Wow! What audacity for Prince to do that!
What makes Joseph Prince think that only people who lived long can be used by the Lord, while implying that those who die young, can’t.
Let me quote just 4 examples of people who died young but they made a huge impact for the glory of God in their short journey on earth:
Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German Lutheran Pastor (1906–1945), died at a young age of 39.
He went against the Nazis and eventually was killed by them. Nevertheless, he had done much in his short life.
“Among his many achievements, he helped draft the 1934 Barmen Declaration of the Confessing Churches which pitted the church against the Nazi state – a risky move at that time.
He was part of the resistance movement, and was busy in the work of underground seminaries.
He was arrested and imprisoned in 1943 for plotting against Hitler and was hanged by the Nazis in April 1945.”
Among some of his important works is the book he wrote, ‘The Cost of Discipleship’ which has influenced many people and is still talked about and referred to by many Pastors and Preachers even today.
(By the way, Bonhoeffer’s book, ‘The Cost of Discipleship’ which talks about costly grace is the antithesis to Joseph Prince’s cheap and easy grace.)
Jim Elliot, (1927-1956), died at a young age of 29.
This young missionary was one of five young men killed in South America while they were trying to preach the gospel to the natives there.
Jim had great passion to reach the lost; to the Auca Indians in Eastern Ecuador and he paid with his dear life for this mission.
“Incredibly, some of the wives (with their very young children) kept on working there, as well as other missionaries, and eventually some of these Indians became Christians, including some of those who had helped to kill the five.
One of them, giving his testimony at a meeting, said, ‘I have killed twelve people with my spear! But I did that when my heart was black. Now Jesus’ blood has washed my heart clean, so I don’t live like that anymore.’”
Jim Elliot’s quote: “He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose,” is still quoted around the world today to inspire people about costly discipleship and the glory of martyrdom even though he had died many years ago.
Keith Green, (1953-1982), died at a young age of 28.
“Keith Green is the well-known musician, song writer and evangelist who impacted so many in his short life.
He had the privilege of being discipled – in part – by Leonard Ravenhill, which helps explain his great passion for God, for holiness, and for discipleship.
Tragically a plane crash cut his life short, and we only have a few albums of his wonderful, soul-stirring music, but his songs still touch millions of people today.
We don’t know why he was taken from us so soon, but we certainly can thank God for the rich legacy he left behind, and which his wife Melody continues in.”
These three men and many others, did far more for Christ and the Kingdom in their short lives than many have done in their longer lives.
The fourth person is none other than the Lord Jesus Himself.
How long did Jesus live?
A long life of 330 years of age or a short life of only 33?
Jesus did not live to a ripe old age as Joseph Prince would love to see, but He died young at only 33, and yet He obtained the salvation of millions who believed in Him.
Joseph Prince has always claimed to be preaching Jesus. But why is Jesus whom he claimed to be preaching not exemplified in his teaching as one who had lived a long life?
Let me share with you just one part of my original poem:
It is not the length of your life that counts
But the depth of your life that really matters.
Jesus lived to only thirty-three,
Yet He obtained man’s salvation on Calvary’s Tree.
For the full poem, please click below:
5. Is Martyrdom the Exception that Joseph Prince was trying to teach?
Joseph Prince said,
“When I read the Bible, the Bible says about length of days, long life and peace shall be add to thee. Ya, there are some who are called to martyrdom and we honour them. But that’s not the norm. The norm is that you live your life and God wants you longer here because the longer you are here with all the knowledge that you have and what you have learnt from the Lord, you can pass on to the next generation. If everyone wants to go home to be with Jesus, hey God doesn’t actually need your ministry there, you know. Jesus is there. The angels are all there. He needs your ministry here. You need to live long here.”
Joseph Prince said that martyrdom isn’t the norm but living a long life on earth is.
But has Prince forgotten that martyrdom was the norm at the start of Christianity and will be the norm at the end of it before Christ’s coming?
Rev George Ong
Have you ever thought about the fact that if I could succeed in surfacing at least one lie, or one double-talk, or one act of Prince’s hypocrisy, or one piece of evidence that reveals Prince’s ungracious character which is his true self, anyway, or one false teaching that Joseph Prince has been teaching, in almost every of his weekly Sunday sermons so far, how can he be a true teacher of God’s word?
With someone constantly peering over his preaching every Sunday, and making him account for every word that he utters, no wonder Joseph Prince is getting really worried.
Well, he always tries to feign it with his cool, calm and collected composure. But you and I know, it’s all for show.
His impatience and intolerance towards his critics and criticisms which he has always harboured on the inside of him, is beginning to show in the open.
This time, he blurted out the word, ‘Dah’ to spite his critics; well, let’s see what is he going to spurt out in his coming Sunday sermons.
And let’s keep Joseph Prince guessing what my retort is going to be next week, if he continues with his heretical teachings against the scriptures.
(If Joseph Prince is preaching the true teachings of the scriptures, I would be a fool if I attempt to rebut him. Life is too short and precious for such trivial and ungodly pursuits!)
(And by the way, ‘Dah’ is of Russian origin which means an ironic yes. It also means “Yes, what else? Meaning the answer is so obvious that any retard would know. So, it’s really a kind of insult.)