Joseph Prince & Kenneth Copeland to live to 120 – they are God & God is their servant – By Rev George Ong (Dated 8 May 2024)

 

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Though I do not hate Joseph Prince,

 

there are many things I hate about him.

 

This is found in

 

‘My Parting Shot to Joseph Prince,’

 

in the Article.

 

Excerpt No 1 from the Article:

 

3. Joseph Prince said he would live to 120, but George Ong wants to live to 2,000 years and more.

 

Do you know that from one angle,

 

Joseph Prince is plain foolish

 

to claim that he would live to only 120?

 

If I were Joseph Prince,

 

I would not be that stupid as him to stop at 120.

 

but I would dare to ask God for much more

 

to live to 2,000 years.

 

Joseph Prince himself said that age is no limit.

 

The only limit that Joseph Prince teaches

 

is that it must be up to one’s satisfaction.

 

So, if living to 2,000 years and more is up to my satisfaction,

 

can God say no to my request?

 

No, He can’t.

 

By now, you ought to realise what I am driving at.

 

Imagine the totally bizarre and weird teachings

 

that Joseph Prince is feeding New Creation Church.

 

Such a stupid and an idiotic teaching

 

is only for fools,

 

and only fools would believe him.

 

And yet, unbelievably, the majority in New Creation Church

 

and the millions of so-called believers in the other nations

 

are so downright stupid to believe him.

 

Why?

 

I can only come to 2 probable reasons.

 

It is either of the two or a combination of both.

 

First, Joseph Prince is empowered by Satan

 

to keep these multitudes

 

under deception and his control

 

by witchcraft and his occultic powers,

 

even though he is preaching such idiotic stuff

 

that no right-thinking person would accept.

 

Second, the people who follow Joseph Prince

 

as his ardent fans and loyal supporters

 

are as carnal and of the same kind as him,

 

being greedy for money and wealth

(as in the case of his Prosperity Gospel)

 

and being covetous to live a longer life

 

that God would not grant to most people

 

in this present age.

 

Excerpt No 2 from the Article:

 

My Parting Shot to Joseph Prince:

 

Joseph Prince,

 

I do not hate you.

 

If I do,

 

I would be going against the scriptures,

 

and God may declare me as an unbeliever.

 

Though I do not hate you,

 

that doesn’t mean

 

I do not hate what you have done

 

and what you are doing.

 

You have been teaching many heretical doctrines

 

that are leading the multitudes to their destruction.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

But what is worse is that

 

you attributed these heretical teachings to God Himself

 

when you said it was God

 

who spoke to you to teach them.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

On many occasions,

 

I have proven you to be a serial liar

 

as you claimed that God had spoken to you,

 

but you were merely putting words in God’s mouth.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

You blatantly lied

 

when you claimed to be preaching Jesus

 

and making Him central.

 

But what you have done

 

is that you are preaching the Jesus

 

of your own concoction.  

 

That’s what I hate!

 

You have the spiritual dare to teach against

 

three of Jesus’ most central teachings:

 

the Great Commission in Matthew 28:18-20,

 

the Greatest Commandment in Matthew 22:37-38

 

and costly discipleship. 

 

And yet, you have the shamelessness

 

to say you are making Jesus central in your teachings.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

You literally wiped out

 

the 3 years of Jesus’ teachings in the gospels

 

when you taught that all of that

 

are under the Old Covenant

 

and irrelevant to New Covenant believers. 

 

That’s what I hate!

 

In this article alone,

 

you have taught that we are literally God

 

who could determine how long we would live.

 

And God is our servant

 

who has to carry out our wishes.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

This is despite you knowing

 

that life and death is not in our hands

 

but in God’s hands.

 

This is nothing less

 

than an abominable and blasphemous teaching.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

All that I have mentioned so far

 

is only the tip of the iceberg.

 

This is why, as far as I’m concerned,

 

you are not a Christian

 

but a wolf in sheepskin.

 

You said you will live to 120.

 

Don’t be naively silly and foolishly presumptuous.

 

Let me tell you straight in your face that

 

you are not going to live to 120.

 

Neither is Kenneth Copeland going to live to 120.

 

You are headed for hell.

 

And I will be the last person to want to see you

 

end up that way.

 

I would love to call you a brother-in-Christ.

 

But I can’t

 

unless you truly repent from your heretical teachings.

 

If you truly repent,

 

I believe God will use you in a mightier way

 

to win souls,

 

not with your false gospel,

 

but with the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

If you truly repent,

 

I would be the first to hug you

 

and forgive you of all the destructive teachings

 

that you have caused to the body of Christ.

 

I was overjoyed when Kong Hee repented.

 

So please be humble and follow the example of Kong Hee,

 

and God will not abandon you

 

but will use you in an even greater way.

 

Do not continue on this wayward path anymore.

 

Do not let pride, which is your number one problem,

 

stand in the way of true repentance.

 

If you truly repent from all your heresies,

 

God can still use you.

 

I, for one, will covenant to pray for you

 

that God will grant you true success.

 

Yes, everything in your life and ministry will crash.

 

But fear not, after a period of restoration

 

by the Body of Christ,

 

the Lord will rebuild your ministry

 

and you can truly shine for our Lord Jesus.

 

Don’t be afraid,

 

your days are not over if you would humbly repent.

 

And when you truly repent,

 

I will support you all the way by praying for you,

 

that you will be used mightily

 

to win the multitudes of souls to the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

But if you choose to continue along this evil path,

 

not only will you be destroyed in the end,

 

but I will also continue my battle

 

against you and your heresies

 

unless God Himself commands me to stop.

 

(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)

 

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to view the entire video:

 

In my previous article 2 days ago,

 

I wrote that both Joseph Prince and Kenneth Copeland

 

are close partners in the ministry for a long time

 

as revealed by Kenneth Copeland’s grandson,

 

James Pearson in a video interview with Joseph Prince.

 

They are not only partners in the ministry

 

but they teach the same abominable Prosperity Gospel doctrine.

 

Guess who is the one who influences who?

 

It must be Kenneth Copeland

 

who influenced Joseph Prince.

 

Do you know their age difference?

 

A hefty 27 years!

 

Kenneth Copeland is 88-years-old,

 

while Joseph Prince is 61-years-old.

 

When Kenneth Copeland started his Prosperity Gospel ministry,

 

Joseph Prince was probably still ‘sucking milk’.

 

In fact, in terms of age,

 

Kenneth Copeland can be Joseph Prince’s ‘father.’

 

They are not only partners in the ministry,

 

teach the heretical Prosperity Gospel doctrine,

 

and claim they can grow your hair from bald patches,

 

but both also want to live to 120 years of age. 

 

Indeed, birds of the same feather, flock together.

 

Again, it is, of course Kenneth Copeland,

 

who must have taught or influenced Joseph Prince

 

about the long-life doctrine.

 

In a sermon, Kenneth Copeland said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 30-second video:

 

“I mean, over a long period of time,

 

the Lord start to talk to me about living 120 years.

 

And I agreed to do it.

 

I had some conditions.

 

And some of them have come to pass.

 

But I’m going there.”

 

In another sermon, Kenneth Copeland said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 30-second video:

 

“I consider not my body 83-years-old.

 

I consider it not.

 

In the name of Jesus,

 

but only that which God had promised.

 

And I have a personal covenant with God

 

to live to a 120-years-old.”

 

Similarly, Joseph Prince

 

has followed Kenneth Copeland’s cue

 

as he had also declared

 

that he will live to 120 years.

 

In a sermon, Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 40-second video:

 

“You don’t have to quote chapter and verse all the time.

 

Many of you believe the right things now.

 

But are you saying it.

 

‘In my heart I believe, Pastor.’

 

It’s not enough.

 

The spirit of faith, I believe, therefore I spoke.

 

Speak it out.

 

Find someone and tell the person.

 

Someone says,

 

‘I have never seen anyone live to 120.’

 

Well, I’d be the one.

 

The first in Singapore, in Jesus’ name.

 

Say it.

 

And God looks down and say,

 

‘That’s my boy. That’s my daughter.’

 

Say it, don’t have to be chapter and verse all the time.”

 

Joseph Prince said:

 

“You don’t have to quote chapter and verse all the time…

 

Say it, don’t have to be chapter and verse all the time.”

 

Though this isn’t my focus in this article,

 

it is worthwhile to highlight

 

that Joseph Prince, by saying the above

 

has exposed himself

 

that when it comes to the crunch,

 

the word of God doesn’t really matter after all.

 

This is the real Joseph Prince.

 

What Joseph Prince is teaching here is worse than that.

 

Joseph Prince by saying,

 

“Say it,

 

don’t have to be chapter and verse all the time,”

 

he is saying that you can have your desires fulfilled

 

just by saying or speaking them into existence

 

regardless of whether it lines up or doesn’t

 

with the word of God.  

 

But the worst and blasphemous thing

 

that Joseph Prince has done

 

is that he was boastfully and arrogantly rash

 

to say publicly that he will live to 120,

 

by invoking and abusing

 

the name of the Lord Jesus and God Himself

 

when he said:

 

“‘Someone says,

 

‘I have never seen anyone live to 120.’

 

Well, I’d be the one.

 

The first in Singapore, in Jesus’ name.

 

Say it.

 

And God looks down and say,

 

‘That’s my boy. That’s my daughter.’”

 

In another sermon, Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 1-minute video:

 

“The promise for every believer who are in Christ; 

 

the Bible says, you are under the shadow,

 

under the protection of the Almighty

 

and the Almighty here is Shaddai.

 

And then this promise, this entire Psalm, ends with

 

‘With long life, God satisfies you’ (Psa 91:16a).

 

So, we see that God wants to satisfy us with long life.

 

Now, by the way, if it says with long life will I satisfy him;

 

notice there’s no age mentioned there.

 

The only criteria is your satisfaction.

 

With long life, will I satisfy him.

 

So if you’re not satisfied at 90,

 

you want to go further, go on.

 

God is saying the criteria will be long life,

 

according to your satisfaction. 

 

If you are satisfied with life, at a hundred

 

and you say, ‘It’s time to go,’

 

then you can talk to the Lord about it.

 

But the criteria in the New Covenant,

 

God says, ‘With long life will I satisfy you’. 

 

Be satisfied with your life,

 

and then, you can decide to go 

 

if Jesus tarries.”

 

I have dealt with

 

Joseph Prince’s incomplete and misleading exegesis

 

of Psalm 91:16a

 

in another of my articles on my website,

 

so I will not belabour on this point,

 

except to make 3 observations:

 

1. Joseph Prince & Kenneth Copeland have become God, and God is relegated to be their servant.

 

Sure, believers who are blessed with long life

 

are something glorious to celebrate and praise God for.

 

We should not begrudge those

 

whom God has blessed with long life

 

but we should rejoice with them for this wonderful blessing

 

that God has bestowed upon them.

 

But Joseph Prince, who teaches

 

that every New Covenant believer

 

is entitled to live long life

 

– for as long as he wants

 

and as long as he is satisfied,

 

is a different matter altogether.

 

This teaching is gravely erroneous,

 

flippantly presumptuous and so bizarre

 

that any sensible Christian

 

would have no second thoughts

 

in rejecting this as a false doctrine. 

 

What is most disturbing is that Joseph Prince

 

literally teaches that how long you wish to live

 

is your choice and up to your satisfaction. 

 

If you choose to live beyond 100,

 

God, as your Genie, will grant that to you.

 

If you wish to reach the age of 110, 

 

God will fulfil your request

 

as long as you are satisfied.

 

You alone determine the length of your days on earth

 

and God will have to go along with your wish 

 

as long as you are satisfied.

 

In other words, it is you (according to your satisfaction)

 

who determine how long you will live on earth

 

and when you are ready to die;

 

and God will have to fulfil it.

 

By doing that,

 

Joseph Prince is literally making us God,

 

who can decide how long we want to live

 

and God as our servant

 

to merely carry out our wishes. 

 

If Joseph Prince can teach

 

such an outrageous and abominable doctrine

 

how can he not be a heretic?

 

Friends, the sober issue of life and death

 

lies in the hands of God and God alone,

 

and it is not a trivial matter that man can decide.

 

2. If the long-life doctrine doesn’t even work for New Creation Church, this only proves that Joseph Prince is a charlatan.

 

Can we ask Joseph Prince,

 

whose mother passed away last year,

 

how old was she when she passed away?

 

Was she 110?

 

Of course not!

 

Not just his mother,

 

but Joseph Prince has many members in New Creation Church

 

who have since passed away

 

during the 30 odd years of his ministry.

 

And may I ask how old most of them were?

 

100-120?

 

Come on, Joseph Prince,

 

who are you trying to kid?

 

Joseph Prince is a specialist

 

at using the many so-called testimonies of healing,

 

which are read at worship services almost every Sunday

 

to prove that he is preaching the correct doctrine.

 

But why isn’t there any on long-life so far

 

– that because of Joseph Prince’s teaching

 

this member or that member lived to 110 or 120?

 

In fact, several testimonies aren’t enough,

 

but we need plenty of such testimonies

 

of New Creation Church members living beyond 100 or 110

 

in order that his long-life doctrine could be proven

 

beyond any reasonable doubt.

 

If the principle of living a long life to one’s satisfaction

 

which is only taught by him in his church,

 

cannot even produce any concrete results,

 

that simply means Joseph Prince is a conman.

 

If it doesn’t even work in his church,

 

how dare could Joseph Prince preach it so confidently

 

as a golden truth that this long-life principle

 

is a promise for every New Covenant believer.

 

3. Joseph Prince said he would live to 120, but George Ong wants to live to 2,000 years and more.

 

In a sermon, Joseph Prince said:

 

“Someone says,

 

‘I have never seen anyone live to 120.’

 

Well, I’d be the one.

 

The first in Singapore, in Jesus’ name.

 

Say it.”

 

Wow, Joseph Prince is so presumptuous

 

that just by believing and saying that he could live to 120,

 

God would have to grant that to him.

 

Do you know in my carnal self,

 

I would, without batting an eyelid,

 

place a bet with anyone

 

that Joseph Prince won’t live to 120

 

for 1 million dollars (not that I have 1 million)?

 

But, of course, as a believer, I can’t and I won’t.

 

I’m just making the point

 

that Joseph Prince has become so arrogant,

 

imagining himself as God,

 

that he could even say

 

that he would be the first in Singapore to live to 120!

 

Do you know that from one angle,

 

Joseph Prince is plain foolish

 

to claim that he would live to only 120?

 

If I were Joseph Prince,

 

I would not be that stupid as him to stop at 120.

 

but I would dare to ask God for much more.

 

If I were an Old Covenant believer,

 

I would say to God that I want to live to 2,000 years and more

 

so as to welcome Christ’s first coming.

 

(assuming that Joseph Prince’s teaching on long life is true.)

 

Some of you may say,

 

“Wow, George, you are even more presumptuous

 

and daring than Joseph Prince.”

 

But why can’t I ask God to live to 2,000 years and even more?

 

Did Joseph Prince say there is a limit to the number of years?

 

No!

 

In another sermon, Joseph Prince said:

 

“Now, by the way,

 

if it says with long life will I satisfy him;

 

notice there’s no age mentioned there.

 

The only criteria is your satisfaction.”

 

So, Joseph Prince himself said that age is no limit.

 

The only limit that Joseph Prince teaches

 

is that it must be up to one’s satisfaction.

 

So, if living to 2,000 years and more

 

is up to my satisfaction,

 

can God say no to my request?

 

No, He can’t.

 

Because God’s will to grant me long life

 

as Joseph Prince teaches,

 

is up to my satisfaction.

 

And if my satisfaction is to live to 2,000 years and more

 

God would have to grant it to me.

 

At this juncture, Joseph Prince may say to me,

 

“Come on, George, please be reasonable.

 

Asking God to live to 120, as in my case, is one thing,

 

but asking Him to let you live to 2,000 years and more

 

is too farfetched.”

 

I would say to Joseph Prince:

 

“But why didn’t you say

 

that there is a limit to the number of years of 120

 

that God can grant me?

 

I thought you said there’s no age limit

 

and that the limit is up to my satisfaction?

 

So, if I want to live to 2,000 years and more

 

and that is up to my satisfaction,

 

why can’t I ask God for it?”

 

By now, you ought to realise what I am driving at.

 

Imagine the totally bizarre and weird teachings

 

that Joseph Prince is feeding New Creation Church.

 

Such a stupid and an idiotic teaching

 

is only for fools,

 

and only fools would believe him.

 

And yet, unbelievably, the majority in New Creation Church

 

and the millions of so-called believers in the other nations

 

are so downright stupid to believe him.

 

Why?

 

I can only come to 2 probable reasons.

 

It is either of the two or a combination of both.

 

First, Joseph Prince is empowered by Satan

 

to keep these multitudes

 

under deception and his control

 

by witchcraft and his occultic powers,

 

even though he is preaching such idiotic stuff

 

that no right-thinking person would accept?

 

Second, the people who follow Joseph Prince

 

as his ardent fans and loyal supporters

 

are as carnal and of the same kind as him,

 

being greedy for money and wealth

 

(as in the case of his Prosperity Gospel)

 

and being covetous to live a longer life

 

that God would not grant to most people

 

in this present age.  

 

In conclusion,

 

what is most disturbing is that Joseph Prince

 

literally teaches that how long you wish to live

 

is your choice and up to your satisfaction. 

 

If you choose to live beyond 90,

 

God, as your Genie, will grant that to you.

 

If you wish to reach the age of 100, 

 

God will fulfil your request

 

as long as you are satisfied.

 

You alone determine the length of your days

 

and how long you would live on earth

 

and God would have to go along with your wish and fulfil it

 

as long as you are satisfied.

 

By doing that,

 

Joseph Prince is literally making us God

 

who can decide how long we want to live

 

and God as our servant

 

to merely carry out our wishes. 

 

Joseph Prince is so arrogant

 

that he is starting to act like God,

 

when he claimed that believers can live

 

for as long as they are satisfied.

 

and that he will be the first in Singapore

 

to live to 120!

 

If Joseph Prince can teach

 

such outrageous and abominable doctrines

 

how can he not be a heretic?

 

Friends, life and death are sacred issues,

 

which are not in Joseph Prince’s hands to be bandied about,

 

but they belong to God and Him alone.

 

Only God can decide

 

how long or short a life any believer (and unbeliever) can live.

 

My Parting Shot to Joseph Prince:

 

Joseph Prince,

 

I do not hate you.

 

If I do,

 

I would be going against the scriptures,

 

and God may declare me as an unbeliever.

 

Though I do not hate you,

 

that doesn’t mean

 

I do not hate what you have done

 

and what you are doing.

 

You have been teaching many heretical doctrines

 

that are leading the multitudes to their destruction.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

But what is worse is that

 

you attributed these heretical teachings to God Himself

 

when you said it was God

 

who spoke to you to teach them.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

On many occasions,

 

I have proven you to be a serial liar

 

as you claimed that God had spoken to you,

 

but you were merely putting words in God’s mouth.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

You blatantly lied

 

when you claimed to be preaching Jesus

 

and making Him central.

 

But what you have done

 

is that you are preaching the Jesus

 

of your own concoction.  

 

That’s what I hate!

 

You have the spiritual dare to teach against

 

three of Jesus’ most central teachings:

 

the Great Commission in Matthew 28:18-20,

 

the Greatest Commandment in Matthew 22:37-38

 

and costly discipleship. 

 

And yet, you have the shamelessness

 

to say you are making Jesus central in your teachings.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

You literally wiped out

 

the 3 years of Jesus’ teachings in the gospels

 

when you taught that all of that

 

are under the Old Covenant

 

and irrelevant to New Covenant believers. 

 

That’s what I hate!

 

In this article alone,

 

you have taught that we are literally God

 

who could determine how long we would live.

 

And God is our servant

 

who has to carry out our wishes.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

This is despite you knowing

 

that life and death is not in our hands

 

but in God’s hands.

 

This is nothing less

 

than an abominable and blasphemous teaching.

 

That’s what I hate!

 

All that I have mentioned so far

 

is only the tip of the iceberg.

 

This is why, as far as I’m concerned,

 

you are not a Christian

 

but a wolf in sheepskin.

 

You said you will live to 120.

 

Don’t be naively silly and foolishly presumptuous.

 

Let me tell you straight in your face that

 

you are not going to live to 120.

 

Neither is Kenneth Copeland going to live to 120.

 

You are headed for hell.

 

And I will be the last person to want to see you

 

end up that way.

 

I would love to call you a brother-in-Christ.

 

But I can’t

 

unless you truly repent from your heretical teachings.

 

If you truly repent,

 

I believe God will use you in a mightier way

 

to win souls,

 

not with your false gospel,

 

but with the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

 

If you truly repent,

 

I would be the first to hug you

 

and forgive you of all the destructive teachings

 

that you have caused to the body of Christ.

 

I was overjoyed when Kong Hee repented.

 

So please be humble and follow the example of Kong Hee,

 

and God will not abandon you

 

but will use you in an even greater way.

 

Do not continue on this wayward path anymore.

 

Do not let pride,

 

which is your number one problem,

 

stand in the way of true repentance.

 

If you truly repent from all your heresies,

 

God can still use you.

 

I, for one, will covenant to pray for you

 

that God will grant you true success.

 

Yes, everything in your life and ministry will crash.

 

But fear not, after a period of restoration

 

by the Body of Christ,

 

the Lord will rebuild your ministry

 

and you can truly shine for our Lord Jesus.

 

Don’t be afraid,

 

your days are not over if you would humbly repent.

 

And when you truly repent,

 

I will support you all the way by praying for you,

 

that you will be used mightily

 

to win the multitudes of souls to the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

But if you choose to continue along this evil path,

 

not only will you be destroyed in the end,

 

but I will also continue my battle

 

against you and your heresies

 

unless God Himself commands me to stop.”

 

Rev George Ong

 

Appendix

 

Featured YouTube comments:

 

@8studio

 

“Kenneth Copeland Ministries (KCM)

 

is completely not biblical and satanic.

 

Thank you for exposing him.

 

I used to read his Believers Voice of Victory (BVOV) magazines

 

many years ago, and have not done since.

 

Now, seeing this,

 

I am glad that I have stopped reading all his materials.”

 

@vijayrem-mn6id

 

“Joseph Prince is the most cunning and devious

 

among him, Kenneth Copeland and Benny Hinn.

 

For example, he tells the congregation

 

that he loves to preach in context,

 

when in reality, he does the opposite.

 

That’s only one of his manipulative tricks.

 

Now, a rich church mouse can produce rat poison.”

 

@MarkChia-qm5hu

 

“What Kenneth Copeland did is insane!

 

The same also goes for Joseph Prince!”

 

@davidching7803

 

“One thing for sure,

 

Joseph Prince and Joel Osteen

 

and those fake pastors in TBN network

 

and their followers

 

will be rejected by Jesus

 

to enter the narrow gate into the kingdom of God.

 

Wearing funny costumes and fanciful ornaments

 

and high heel boots to preach

 

and shout on the pulpit.

 

Keep using misleading words like

 

“God told me this; God told me that”

 

and “Amen this, Amen that” unnecessarily,

 

Joseph Prince doesn’t exemplify a pastor

 

but more like a snake in the facade.”

 

@user-vo3iy4ur6d

 

“Joseph Prince does not lie unwittingly and innocently.

 

He hides verses from his congregation

 

to say what he wants them to hear.

 

Rev George Ong has done a par excellent job

 

exposing his heresies

 

and showing Joseph Prince’s

 

deliberate and manipulative methods.

 

He is lying and cheating

 

and he knows it all

 

for the sake of money, power and fame.

 

One cannot serve God and Mammon.

 

Once a person serves Mammon,

 

he does not serve God

 

no matter how much a person publicly declares his love of God.

 

And also the Holy Spirit will not open the Word to him

 

and that’s why all the prosperity preachers preach heresies

 

which marks them out as false teachers

 

are motivated by greed, fame and power.

 

The Pharisees were also greedy

 

and Jesus warned His disciples of their leaven.

 

So, contemporary prosperity preachers

 

and the Pharisees in Jesus’ time

 

are in the same class.”

 

@user-qi8rv4ez7u

 

“Every week, he or his sidekicks (Joseph Prince’s Pastors)

 

would tell personal stories

 

to make people think Joseph Prince is super-spiritual,

 

so gifted by God.

 

It’s not what they say

 

– it’s what they don’t say or don’t tell 

 

that sucks the people in.

 

They show you mission works abroad

 

to show they are doing some good work.

 

But they don’t tell you…the expensive building

 

maintenance costs, rental, etc.

 

They thank the people that because of their giving

 

they are making mission work possible,

 

but they never thank them

 

for bearing the other high costs.

 

Why?

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“I remember one Sunday morning,

 

many years ago (not sure which Sunday),

 

I was in the toilet next to my room

 

while the TV in my room was showing the Sunday message from NCC.

 

Suddenly, from the TV,

 

I heard Joseph Prince declaring and saying

 

“I see an ‘old’ man on the toilet bowl ..

 

he has this xxxx (a very general condition or pain) ..

 

I heard God say that He is healing you right now .. ”

 

Wow, what do you think

 

when you heard this kind of healing ‘prophecy’

 

or when your condition is called out just like this?

 

Of course, you will check and see

 

if God is really healing you or speaking to you;

 

but on second thought, you would ask,

 

‘How many men are really ‘old’

 

and are in the toilets now,

 

and which one is he is referring to now?’

 

This is really madness.

 

If he continues to declare and prophesy

 

all the conditions, pains, and sicknesses one by one

 

in this way, every Sunday,

 

very soon the whole Singapore

 

will write to him and say that they ‘suspect’

 

that they were the one God had spoken to and healed

 

in one way or another

 

(even though they might not be really healed supernaturally).

 

Nowadays, things are getting more and more ‘interesting’

 

whenever Joseph Prince comes out to preach.

 

You never know what ‘new’ nonsense

 

he will come up with every Sunday.

 

If you have no loved ones

 

who are living under his deception and bondages,

 

you might just enjoy all the ‘nonsense’

 

that he can come up with;

 

however, if you have loved ones

 

who keep listening to him,

 

you would pray that he will stop.

 

May God help you to expose him too.”

 

@vijayrem-mn6id

 

“So many are still being deceived…

 

under the delusion

 

that they are being enlightened by an anointed pastor.”

 

@jeremychew3668

 

“Many are not blind.

 

They are seeking more money, more health, not God

 

and so Joseph Prince is their devil-sent.

 

For those seeking God,

 

thank God for this channel,

 

Rev George Ong and all those here

 

who share their real-life experiences,

 

so that they know to stay away.”

 

@veralinc8117

 

“On Sun, 5th May 2024,

 

one of Joseph Prince’s sidekicks,

 

Pastor Mark said he went to a hospital for check-up

 

for heart-related problem.

 

Went to hospital?

 

Shows no faith in his master’s teaching.

 

He should just take Holy Communion

 

and chant I am the righteousness

 

and forget about going for check-up.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

Should interview all his pastors

 

as well as cg/ministry leaders… in the past 10 years

 

how many of them no need to visit the doctor at all?

 

Don’t talk about surgeries!

 

This is a test whether their faith in NCC teachings work

 

for the most devoted in their midst.”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“After taking Holy Communion 3 times a day

 

and confessing “I am the righteousness of God” radically

 

for so many years,

 

they still get sick

 

and need the doctors to do surgeries on them

 

and give them the medication.

 

I wonder what’s so special

 

about their ‘holy communion’

 

or ‘confession of righteousness’?

 

If their probability of getting sick

 

is same as the non-believers,

 

what they are doing is obviously a ritual of bondage

 

that deceives the mind, worst

 

– it could be a witchcraft

 

which corrupts the mind of the believers.”

 

@ronpinngapinnga

 

“Any man of doublespeak and cognitive dissonance,

 

such as Joseph Prince,

 

maybe one who speaks not by the Holy Spirit but by Satan.

 

Every reason to stay vigilant

 

against impostors and opportunists.”

 

@exodus9655

 

“It makes me wonder why so many are so naïve

 

… are they really so blind??”

 

@philipchan3641

 

Rubbish. Sickening.

 

@user-iu3dm5qk7p

 

“Joseph Prince should go be Bill Gates or Elon Musk

 

if he loves money.

 

Since he is so anointed and spirit-guided,

 

so he should have no problem emulating them.”

 

@davidching7803

 

“Lol.

 

These jokers at the pulpit

 

are distorting the Holy Communion

 

for the remembrance of Jesus

 

into some occults similar to 莲教 金刚不坏之身

 

If taking Holy Communion

 

is for longevity and good health to the fleshly body,

 

Jesus would have mentioned it specifically in the Bible

 

to let everyone who reads the Bible know about it.

 

Jesus did not mention that Holy Communion

 

is for health purposes,

 

so why is Joseph Prince

 

adding new words and meaning to the Bible?

 

He wants to be above God?”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“Okay, relating to the ‘hair’ business again,

 

I would think that you do not really need to do like Joseph Prince,

 

like speaking to your hair to ‘grow’ it.

 

You can go to some very good hair treatment centers

 

and get it done within hours

 

by using hair-planting techniques

 

cum customization of a wig.

 

Yes, I am quite concerned with my hair too.

 

That’s why Jesus knew

 

that it is not only the MAIN CONCERN

 

of both men and women 2000 years ago;

 

but also today.

 

However, did Jesus tell us to speak to our hair and grow it?

 

I cannot find it in the Bible.

 

Yes, of course,

 

Joseph Prince might argue

 

that you should follow him

 

and confess it for your hair (everyday)

 

without the need to wait

 

until after you get your resurrected body,

 

because Jesus has given us the power to speak

 

and make things happen.

 

However, I will ask him,

 

‘Are you going to tell us to speak to the bread

 

and multiply it too,

 

since Jesus has demonstrated to you

 

that He can multiply bread?’

 

Jesus has mentioned about our concern about hair;

 

however, He never mentioned

 

that we can do anything about it.

 

Similarly, He has multiplied bread;

 

but He never tells us to multiply bread too:

 

Matt 5:36-37; Matt 10:29-32.

 

Please think,

 

if we can speak to our hair and hair grows,

 

or speak to the bread and bread multiplies,

 

do you know what will happen to our world?”

 

@user-iu3dm5qk7p

 

“In one April 2024 sermon,

 

he says very clearly,

 

“The Lord said to me, ‘I’m coming back quickly’.”  

 

Apostle Paul says

 

” … let us clarify some things

 

about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ

 

and how we will be gathered to meet him.

 

Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those

 

who say that the day of the Lord has already begun.

 

Don’t believe them,

 

even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision,

 

a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us.

 

Don’t be fooled by what they say” (2 Thess 2 NLT)

 

This raises serious questions

 

on the integrity of Joseph Prince’s teaching.”

 

@cutecuteoldold

 

“Jo Joghinder Singh,

 

Go to a Bible college.

 

Pray!

 

Read the Word.

 

Stop trying to impress.

 

Stop your vanity.

 

Stop your deception.

 

Stop your vain threats.

 

Repent while you still have breath.”

 

@vijayrem-mn6id

 

“The real manna is the word of God

 

by which our souls are nourished.

 

Don’t waste your money and time

 

buying and listening to Joseph Prince’s sermons 24/7. 

 

Make you lazier.

 

Forget about paying your fees

 

for expensive building maintenance and rental.

 

There are other well-deserving places.”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“Nowadays, I really doubt

 

about the ‘quality’ or character of the believers

 

that we can draw into the kingdom of God.

 

Are they still the genuine, simple, sin-conscious,

 

and humble believers who will repent, or just the carnal,

 

money-conscious, sensual, and foolish believers

 

who will focus only on the outward desires of their flesh?

 

Are we attracting the people

 

who are wise and who can think and analyze,

 

or are we getting only a bunch of weaklings

 

who only want to hear the good and ‘juicy’ things?

 

Sometimes, I really wonder

 

where have all those mature, sound-minded Christians gone to?

 

Have they all gone home with the Lord,

 

or have our churches become SO WEAK

 

that we can only raise up religious ‘babies’

 

who are easily conned by any religious ‘con artists’

 

around us?”

 

@user-iu3dm5qk7p

 

“Better avoid the Grace Academy

 

if you don’t want to be indoctrinated with false teachings.

 

It may be free, but eventually you may be taught

 

how to bribe God with your tithes and offering

 

to get prosperity.”

 

@user-vo3iy4ur6d

 

“Sounds like those financial products

 

being promoted on YouTube, free for a few lessons,

 

a few hours, and if you are interested,

 

then pay, literally you are biting the baits

 

attending Grace Academy.

 

High sounding name to draw you in.

 

The world says there is no free lunch,

 

believe it, better stay at home

 

and do free Berean Bible study,

 

certainly will prove to be more helpful.”

 

@richardgohyk8822

 

“What Kenneth Copeland has done

 

with the Holy Communion is paganism

 

and truly shocking indeed.”

 

@ronpinngapinnga

 

“According to Meta AI

 

Kenneth Copeland is the richest pastor in the world

 

with est. net worth $300M. 

 

As Eric Hill, Bible teacher for 35 years,

 

writes in his book

 

“WHAT PREACHERS NEVER TELL YOU ABOUT TITHES AND OFFERINGS: THE END OF CLERGY MANIPULATION AND EXTORTION”

 

“Just how long do we act as allies of evil

 

through our silence?

 

This system of financial unaccountability

 

makes it easy for unworthy ministries

 

to raise tremendous amounts of money from good-hearted,

 

but ‘hopeful-to-a-fault’ Christians.

 

Certainly, there are some bad ministries

 

that are so carefully disguised

 

that no one could be blamed for supporting them.

 

There are others, however,

 

that are so obviously materialistic, worldly, and ungodly

 

that there is absolutely no excuse for supporting them.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“Let’s uphold Joseph Prince in the Lord’s prayers.

 

May the mercy and love of our Lord touch Joseph Prince

 

and restore him back unto the Lord.”

 

@markmk44

 

“What a confused pastor…

 

interchangeably applying the spiritual to the physical.

 

I hope he is confused more than intentionally deceiving.”

 

@user-hd7qv8dx7x

 

“Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn and Joseph Prince

 

are the 3 stooges of the church.”

 

@user-hd7qv8dx7x

 

“Joseph Prince doesn’t want to admit when he’s sick.”

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“You forgot??

 

In NCC, they are not supposed to confess negative things.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“Yes, cannot talk negative or else what you say, it shall be!

 

Therefore, we subjected ourselves

 

by the addition of laws given by Joseph Prince.

 

Keep on reminding ourselves

 

and be careful what’s coming out of our mouths.

 

If not careful, speak of negative things,

 

we will be very fearful cos it might happen to us!

 

Don’t read news too much,

 

don’t say die, die, die,

 

don’t watch drama too much,

 

don’t watch Netflix too much,

 

must remember to take Holy Communion

 

as many times as possible,

 

must keep confessing

 

we are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, etc…

 

Oh dear…

 

Until one day we think back

 

what Joseph Prince used to share

 

how fearful and worn out

 

whenever he forgot to confess all his sins.

 

Joseph Prince said he nearly went crazy living in such way.

 

Hey, doesn’t what Joseph Prince teach us

 

to be careful what to say,

 

what not to say, what to declare …etc

 

also has caused us so fearful and worn out as time goes!

 

Still comes back to DO’s & DON’Ts.

 

Joseph Prince is so willing to say much more,

 

also not willing to confess his sins unto the Lord,

 

whereas so clearly

 

The Bible told us we must still confess our sins every day

 

and ask God to forgive and change our wicked ways!

 

(Worst was Joseph Prince also told others

 

no need to confess their sins! Once saved always saved!)

 

We surrender and repent unto God

 

for our ignorance and wickedness

 

by following men’s teachings

 

when everything has been clearly written in The Bible

 

We return to The Bible

 

and follow what The Bible said instead.

 

That’s ‘trusting’ God!”

 

Note this is a critique of my website:

 

@charlesmisong6602

 

“Do this in remembrance of Me

 

meaning to remember His forgiveness, healing etc

 

provided for us through His death on the cross,

 

then receive them by faith.

 

Without faith it’s impossible to please God.”

 

These are the comments of those

 

who wrote against the above critic:

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

“You forgot about examination of self

 

before partaking of the Holy Communion.

 

1 Corinthians 11:27-32 ESV.

 

You should be asking how many are sick and died

 

before their time

 

cos they abuse the Holy Communion

 

as taught by Joseph Prince in New Creation Church.”

 

Note this is a critique of my website:

 

@charlesmisong6602

 

“@lindsaylim5806 

 

You must know the purpose of the Holy Communion.”

 

These are the comments of those

 

who wrote against the above critic:

 

@lindsaylim5806

 

‘The main purpose of Holy Communion

 

1 Corinthians 11:26 ESV

[26] For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

 

We do not need to use Holy Communion

 

whenever we want to pray for healing. 

 

Do not use it as a form of idolatry.

 

Just praying by faith, God will still answer.”

 

@user-vo3iy4ur6d

 

“Do Holy Communion as per the Word.

 

Don’t add to it.

 

Just trust and obey what is written.

 

Don’t be smarter than the Holy Spirit

 

who inspired the written word.” 

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