Joseph Prince isn’t saved: Biblical Proofs By Rev George Ong (Dated 20 Mar 2024)

 

(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)

 

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Regarding my last Article featured 2 days ago,

 

although Pastor A discerned that Joseph Prince isn’t saved

 

because he cannot find any evidence

 

that Prince had observed the Ten Commandments,

 

Joseph Prince disagreed and said he is saved. 

 

If you have missed the previous Article,

 

Part 4: Joseph Prince went for deliverance, isn’t saved, went against Jesus & the Christian Church on the Ten Commandments, he’s into the Occult & Witchcraft – By Rev George Ong (Dated 18 March 2024)

 

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https://www.revgeorgeong.com/rev-george-ong-part-4-joseph-prince-went-for-deliverance-isnt-saved-went-against-jesus-the-christian-church-on-the-ten-commandments-hes-into-the-occult-witchcraft/

 

In a sermon on 17 Mar 2024,

 

3 days ago, Joseph Prince said;

 

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wasn’t shown in the video in the previous Article):

 

“You know what he said about me

 

not being saved.

 

I know I’m saved.

 

So, the first thing the Holy Spirit does

 

is that He bears witness (Rom 8:16).

 

No one can out-talk you on that.

 

You know you are saved.

 

Where does it bear witness?

 

In our spirit.”

 

Joseph Prince defended he is saved and quoted Romans 8:16

 

as the basis for the certainly of his salvation:

 

Romans 8:16 NKJV

 

16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit

 

that we are children of God,

 

But whether one is saved or not

 

cannot just be dependent subjectively on one’s judgement.

 

According to the scriptures,

 

there are objective standards of measures.

 

As usual, the deceptive Joseph Prince

 

only tells you the half-truth in Romans 8:16,

 

but he ‘hides’ the other half-truths in 1 John 2:3-4

 

and many other passages from you. 

 

Joseph Prince may claim that he is saved.

 

But the test is whether Joseph Prince obeys God,

 

and, in particular, His commandments.

 

For John, the importance of obedience lies in this

 

– that only in the obeying of Christ’s commandments

 

can we be certain that we know Him (1 Jn 2:3):

 

1 John 2:3 NLT

 

3 “And we can be sure that we know him

 

if we obey his commandments.”

 

In other words,

 

without the evidence of obedience,

 

one does not know God.

 

Obedience to God’s commands

 

is proof that one knows God

 

and the evidence of salvation.

 

The proof of knowing God

 

is in the keeping of His commandments.

 

Knowing the Lord is, in a sense, synonymous

 

with obeying or keeping His commandments.

 

For salvation to be genuine,

 

obedience is mandatory:

 

1 John 2:4 NLT

 

4 “If someone claims, “I know God,”

 

but doesn’t obey God’s commandments,

 

that person is a liar

 

and is not living in the truth.”

 

John is echoing what Jesus said in Matthew 7:21,

 

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven” (Matt 7:21).

 

What John taught in 1 John 2:3-4

 

is designed to emphasise the same warning in Matthew 7:21.

 

The recurring emphasis on this point

 

is designed to save us from deluding ourselves into thinking

 

that as long as we believe in Jesus

 

and as long as we feel in our spirit that we are saved,

 

as it is the case with Joseph Prince,

 

that is enough for saving faith.

 

But it isn’t!

 

True faith must finally be proven by our obedience;

 

and specifically, to God’s commandments.

 

According to 1 John 2:4,

 

disobedience to God’s commandments

 

can disqualify us as a Christian.

 

And also, according to 1 John 2:3-4,

 

if one claims he knows Christ

 

and isn’t prepared to obey His commandments,

 

one would be called a liar.

 

And the place for liars, according to Revelation 21:8

 

is the lake of fire.

 

By this definition in 1 John 2:3-4,

 

Joseph Prince qualifies himself

 

to be called a liar and an unbeliever,

 

as he teaches there are no more laws or commandments to obey

 

for New Covenant people.

 

His false grace doctrine sees

 

even honest and sincere obedience to God’s moral law

 

as legalism

 

and totally obliterates the moral laws/God’s commandments

 

as binding for New Covenant believers. 

 

What Jesus was teaching

 

is not that grace could be earned.

 

Jesus was teaching that obedience to God’s laws

 

that is the logical consequence of faith, which is required,

 

is not legalism.

 

On the contrary, it is the only proper response

 

to the kind of grace that God is offering.

 

This is precisely why Jesus said to all His followers,

 

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven” (Matt 7:21).

 

This is why John wrote,

 

“By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments” (1 Jn 2:3).

 

This is why the author of Hebrews wrote,

 

and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.” (Heb 5:9)

 

These scriptures prove that God’s grace cannot be obtained

 

without meeting the condition of obedience.

 

Those who have truly experienced God’s grace

 

are those who obey His commandments.

 

This is not only my view

 

but the views of our Church Fathers.

 

Let me quote just 3 of them:

 

In ‘Commentary of the New Testament,’

 

Charles Spurgeon said:

 

“1 John 2:3

 

3. And hereby we do know that we know him,

 

if we keep his commandments.

 

Holiness of life

 

is the best proof that we know God.

 

It matters not how readily we can speak about God,

 

nor how much we suppose that we love him,

 

the great test is,

 

do we keep his commandments?

 

What a heart-searching test this is!

 

How it should humble us before the mercy-seat!

 

Obedience is the test of discipleship.

 

Mere head knowledge is all in vain,

 

and all in vain our fears,

 

unless we render a practical obedience

 

to the commandments of Christ.

 

We shall not only savingly know him,

 

but we shall

 

“know that we know him,

 

if we keep his commandments.”

 

1 John 2:4

 

4. He that saith, I know him,

 

and keepeth not his commandments,

 

is a liar and the truth is not in him.

 

This is a terrible condition for anyone to be in,

 

to say that he knows Christ,

 

and yet to have the Holy Spirit calling him a liar

 

because he is not keeping Christ’s commandments.

 

Again, I remind you that obedience

 

is essential to Christian discipleship.

 

If we refuse to obey Christ’s commandments

 

it is clear that we do not really know the Saviour at all,

 

we are not even beginners in the school of Christ.”

 

In ‘Commentary of the New Testament,’

 

Charles Spurgeon said;

 

21. Not every one that saith unto me, lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. (Matt 7:21)

 

No verbal homage will suffice:

 

“Not every one that saith.”

 

We may believe in our Lord’s Deity,

 

and we may take great pains

 

to affirm it over and over again with our “Lord, Lord”;

 

but unless we carry out the commands of the Father,

 

we pay no true homage to the Son.

 

We may own our obligations to Jesus,

 

and so call him “Lord, Lord”;

 

but if we never practically carry out those obligations,

 

what is the value of our admissions?

 

Our King receives not into his kingdom

 

those whose religion lies in words and ceremonies;

 

but only those whose lives display

 

the obedience of true discipleship.”

 

In ‘Be Real, Turning from Hypocrisy to Truth, NT Commentary 1 John,’

 

Warren Wiersbe wrote:

 

“Second, I know that I am truly saved

 

if I obey Jesus’ commands.

 

John makes it clear that obedience

 

is partial evidence that a person is truly saved:

 

“We know that we have come to know him

 

if we obey his commands” (1 Jn 2:3 NIV);

 

… This is how we know who the children of God are

 

and who the children of the devil are:

 

… John emphasizes that a true believer

 

lives a life of obedience

 

to the commands of the Lord Jesus.

 

Now, that doesn’t mean

 

that I can obey perfectly all the time,

 

because John tells us,

 

“If we claim to be without sin,

 

we deceive ourselves

 

and the truth is not in us” (1:8 NIV).

 

We all sin, even as true believers.

 

The issue isn’t perfect obedience where we never falter,

 

but rather a desire to obey Jesus’ commands

 

that manifests itself through consistency.”

 

In ‘Life in God, Life in Christ, Volume 5, Studies in 1 John,’

 

Martyn Lloyd-Jones said:

 

“In other words, what matters in this whole question

 

of keeping the commandments

 

is my attitude towards them.

 

When I face the commandments of God,

 

do I resent them?

 

Do I feel that

 

God is imposing an impossible load upon me?

 

Do I groan and grumble and say,

 

‘Oh, this hard taskmaster

 

who asks of me the impossible!’?

 

‘If that is your attitude

 

towards the commandments of God,’ says John,

 

‘you are not keeping them…

 

– you are outside the life altogether.’

 

For someone who is truly Christian

 

does not find the commandments of God

 

to go against the grain.

 

He may be acutely aware of his failure

 

– if he is facing them truly, he must be

 

– but he does not resent them, he loves them

 

– His commandments are not grievous.’

 

… and therefore they want to keep His commandments.

 

… There, then, it seems to me,

 

are the practical tests as John works them out for us.

 

In summary, Joseph Prince isn’t saved then, and even now,

 

because he teaches against the obedience to the laws or commandments of God

 

– that since they are under the Old Covenant,

 

they can be dispensed with.

 

But as Charles Spurgeon, Warren Wiersbe

 

and Martyn Lloyd-Jones and I had pointed out,

 

it is precisely in our obedience to God’s commandments

 

that gives us the ‘right’

 

to say we know God and that we are saved. 

 

Rev George Ong 

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