Joseph Prince feared his critics by his immediate fought back in yesterday’s sermon – By Rev George Ong (Dated 29 Jul 2024)
Last Wednesday,
Eva Kane wrote the following WhatsApp message to me:
“Dear Pastor George,
God has seen all the hard work you have put in
to contend for the Faith
and you are now seeing
the fruits of your labour multiply each week.
More and more comments are coming from your readers,
who have come out of darkness into the light.
Praise God!
It’s embarrassing that this man, Joseph Prince,
doesn’t even know his Bible.
Is it even possible
he doesn’t know Leah is Rachel’s older sister?
That he should demonstrate this level of ignorance
to a packed stadium of Australians
makes any self-respecting Singapore Christian
wanna hide under a table.
How could our little red dot
have produced such an imposter!”
Announcements:
Please see John Stott’s exposition of Galatians 4:21-31
in Appendix 1
and the Featured YouTube comments
in Appendix 2
Excerpt from the Article:
Joseph Prince said:
“I think that my ministry
as well as other ministries around the world
are preaching things
that other people are fighting against.
But I will never fight them.
I got no time lah, very busy. Amen.”
Joseph Prince has told a brazen lie openly
in front of his congregation, yesterday, when he said
“I will never fight them.”
This is because he fought back immediately yesterday
at the earliest opportunity
when he addressed in his sermon
what his critics wrote last week on 24 July 2024
about Rachel, Leah and his bizarre
‘Your mother is law and our mother is grace’ doctrine.
Joseph Prince also told another lie, when he said:
But I will never fight them.
I got no time lah, very busy. Amen.”
But come to think of it,
if Joseph Prince has got no time for his critics
why did he use up a large portion
of his precious sermon time yesterday
to defend against what they wrote
regarding Rachel, Leah, etc, in the first place
in front of his congregation and announce this to the world?
Is it because his critics
have now posed a credible threat to his ministry,
and that’s why he has to take them on
out in the open to the public,
by painting his critics as the bad guys
who are out to fight him and his teachings.
Let me give you one concrete fact
what his critics may have done to his popularity.
Are you aware that his YouTube views of his Sunday sermons
for the 11.30 am service
have dropped by about 2,000 clicks.
Usually, it is 11,000 to 12,000 over clicks.
But I have noticed recently it hovers around
9,000 to 9,000 plus clicks.
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
In the sermon preached yesterday on 28 July 2024,
Joseph Prince said;
to view the 3-minute-30-second video:
“The character Joseph in the Bible in the Book of Genesis.
He’s the son that the father loves, beloved son.
The father had other sons.
How many sons finally he had?
Twelve, plus Benjamin.
But Joseph and Benjamin shared the same mother.
Listen carefully, not the others.
The others had other mothers.
Many of them
(which includes Leah which JP said in a previous video)
bond women (slave women).
So, it’s a picture of those
who share the same heavenly Father
like Isaac and Ishmael.
But Isaac’s mother is Sarah.
And Paul uses this illustration, not me in Galatians 4.
He says that he’s (Isaac) of grace. His mother is Sarah.
But Ismael has Abraham for the father
but his mother is Hagar, the law, which is Mount Sinai.
It says that, Paul says Mount Sinai
which produces bondage.
Don’t forget the Ten Commandments is from Mount Sinai.
Now, we are dead to the law, not to live in lawlessness,
but to walk in the Spirit, and to walk as Christ walked.
But we are not under the law, we are under grace.
So, we are not of Ishmael under the wrong mountain.
God has moved mountain.
God has moved to Mount Zion.
We are under Sarah, Mount Zion, Amen.
But as it was then, the Bible says,
he that was born after the flesh,
Ishmael persecuted him that was born after the Spirit.
Who is that? Isaac – those under grace.
So, it is now.
It’s always the child whose mother is law,
who persecutes the child whose mother is grace.
It’s never those whose mother is grace
persecute the ones whose mother is law.
It’s happening also today.
Amen. Are you listening?
So, our problem come from people
who share the same heavenly Father
but different mother.
Are you a brother from another mother?
Ummm! That’s the problem.
So, same thing with Joseph’s brothers.
Joseph and Benjamin share the same mother.
And in Hebrew, Rachel, her name means lamb
– a picture of grace, a picture of the Lord Jesus Christ.
They both share the same Father and same mother.
The rest are the ones
who are jealous of Joseph, remember that.
God is waiting for a Benjamin Generation.
And he will appear just before Jesus returns
to show his second appearance to Israel.
God is waiting for a generation of Christians
that will have the same mother as him (Benjamin) – Rachel.
Same mother, grace as him.
And I think they are in the land.
I think that my ministry
as well as other ministries around the world
are preaching things
that other people are fighting against.
But I will never fight them.
I got no time lah, very busy. Amen.
And I’ll bless them.
They are still my brothers.
But brother from another mother.
They are the ones that persecute you, you understand.
If you go out there and see people saying bad things
about your church,
just say you’re my brother,
but inside say brother from another mother. Amen,
but I still love you.”
Joseph Prince treats his critics as idiots
as though they can’t see
what he has been trying to deceive
with his obvious twisting of facts in the scriptures.
First, Joseph Prince makes a false comparison
between Sarah and Hagar in Galatians 4:21-31
and Rachel and Leah in the previous video.
as if Sarah is similar to Rachel
and Hagar is similar to Leah.
For those who missed the previous article,
“Joseph Prince may make you vomit in his claim
that he speaks for God”
Please click on the link below:
The God of the Bible is known
as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
In other words,
God’s covenantal promise
is with the spiritual descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
– and not Ishmael.
So, it is clear in Galatians 4:21-31
that those who are under the promise of (grace)
are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Sarah),
and those who under the flesh (or law)
are the descendants of Ishmael (Hagar).
Here is where the crafty Joseph Prince
tries to smuggle in Rachel and Leah
into the equation of Galatians 4:21-31.
The truth is not that Rachel is under grace
and Leah is under law,
in the same way as Sarah is the mother of Isaac,
the child born under the promise (of grace)
and Hagar is the mother of Ishmael,
the child born under the flesh (or law),
as Joseph Prince tries to equate them.
While the Bible makes a comparison
between Sarah, representing the heavenly Jerusalem (grace)
and Hagar, representing Mount Sinai (Law)
in Galatians 4:21-31,
it never makes a similar comparison
between Rachel and Leah,
(including the 2 other wives of Jacob: Bilha and Zilpha,
who were slaves or bond women)
anywhere in the scriptures.
It is Joseph Prince by his own authority and deceitfulness,
who teaches that since Rachel means grace,
the sons of Rachel:
Joseph and Benjamin must be under grace.
And since Leah (6 sons) and Bilha (2 sons) and Zilpha (2 sons)
were under law because they were bond or slave women,
the 10 sons belonging to them were also under law.
Concerning Rachel,
Joseph Prince lied that since Rachel in Hebrew means lamb (ewe to be exact),
therefore, it represents grace.
I repeat as I had done in my previous article
that there is no academic source
that states that Rachel means grace.
Going by Joseph Prince’s argument,
can I also argue that since the Hebrew name of Rachel is lamb,
then Rachel could also mean sacrifice
just as Christ was sacrificed as a lamb for our sake.
In fact, by following his logic,
my conclusion (also false)
is sounder than that of Joseph Prince
as lamb is closer to the idea of sacrifice than grace.
Are you getting the point?
Concerning Leah,
Joseph Prince repeated his lie
that Leah was a bond or a slave woman under law,
even though she, like Rachel, was the other daughter of Jacob.
Next, how can Joseph Prince draw from Galatians 4:21-31
about Sarah and Hagar
as the basis for his teaching
that Rachel is grace (as Sarah is under grace)
and her descendants are under grace
and Leah is law (as Hagar is under law)
and her descendants are under law?
While Galatians 4:21-31 is a comparison
between believers (under grace)
and unbelievers (under law),
Joseph Prince’s comparison is one
that is between those who are under grace
like him and New Creation Church,
and those who are under law like his critics,
but still considered believers.
The truth is when you are under law,
you are no longer a believer
as everyone has to be saved by grace
and no one can be saved by law.
So how can Joseph Prince teach
that those who are under law like his critics
because their mother is law
is still saved.
Can you now understand the total mess-up
and doctrinal incoherence
in Joseph Prince’s arguments?
Both Joseph Prince and his critics are not under law
and they are both under grace.
Joseph Prince preaches false grace that leads to destruction,
while his critics teach true grace that leads to life.
Joseph Prince said;
“It’s always the child whose mother is law,
who persecutes the child whose mother is grace.
It’s never those whose mother is grace
persecute the ones whose mother is law.
It’s happening also today.
… But brother from another mother.
They are the ones that persecute you, you understand.”
Joseph Prince drew from Galatians 4:28-29
to falsely accuse his critics for persecuting them.
But those who are referred to in Galatians 4:28-29
are those who believed they can be saved by the law.
Yet, none of his critics believe we can be saved by the law.
But we do believe like the Reformation Fathers
that we must obey the law after we are saved.
It is Joseph Prince who preaches the false grace doctrine
and against the Reformation Fathers
that believers have nothing to do with the law.
Joseph Prince claims that he and New Creation Church
are being persecuted by their critics.
Elsewhere in his other videos,
he shared many times that others have persecuted him
for preaching his grace theology.
What?
Joseph Prince, you mean
you who are preaching the false grace doctrine
is telling the world that you are being persecuted by those
who preach the true grace doctrine?
You mean, we, who are obeying the scriptures
to contend against heretics like you, are persecuting you?
Wow!
This is the first time I’ve ever heard
– true shepherds, who are trying to protect the sheep
are persecuting ferocious wolves like you,
who are devouring the sheep!
Joseph Prince, your talent at twisting things around,
spinning falsity to become truth
and truth to become falsity
is unmatched.
What?
You mean, you are being persecuted?
Joseph Prince, you must be joking.
How can that be?
You mean, you, being the richest pastor
of the richest church in Singapore
through your regular and weekly honorarium
given by the church, if any;
and through the regular proceeds
from your Gospel Partner programme,
and book sales, CDs
in your 34,000-member (based on your record) church
and around the world,
are being persecuted?
This must be the joke of the year!
I am, of course, not against pastors who are rich.
But I am totally against any pastor such as Joseph Prince
who profit by twisting and distorting the scriptures
in order to churn out his feel-good, flesh-pleasing, self-centred
but false grace teachings
that appeal to and draw the crowds.
You mean, you and your church are so wealthy
that you can afford to broadcast your messages
to well over 150 countries of the world
(according to your own source)
– and everyone knows
that will cost a fantastically hefty sum of money
– and yet, you claim that you are being persecuted?
You mean,
you being the pastor of the biggest church in Singapore
is being persecuted by pastors of much smaller churches?
You mean, you, having body-guards all around you
for most of the time
that your church members can’t even get anywhere near you,
are being persecuted?
Come off it – who are you trying to kid?
By posturing yourself as the one who is being persecuted,
you have greatly insulted the many believers,
especially in the poor Third World nations,
who are the real victims of persecution.
You sure have the deceptive ability and evil inclination of
painting the villain in you as the hero
and the hero in others,
who have the guts to criticise you and your teachings,
as the villain who persecutes you.
Your ability to spin and redefine persecution
to your own advantage
as something that even applies to you,
probably being one of the richest pastors in Asia
and perhaps the world,
is unequalled.
In a sermon, Joseph Prince said:
“We share the same heavenly Father,
but we don’t share the same mother.
Our mother is grace.
This is the generation that will be intimate with Jesus
because they share the same mother of grace.”
Joseph Prince, by saying that
“We share the same heavenly Father,
but we don’t share the same mother.
Our mother is grace,”
is literally placing grace, that he calls mother,
on par and the same level with Father God.
Further, by saying,
“This is the generation that will be intimate with Jesus
because they share the same mother of grace,”
Joseph Prince is clearly implying
believers are intimate with Jesus
because of Mother grace
– but where is Father God?
Well, Father God is being left out!
With the fact that Father God is absent from the statement,
Joseph Prince is implying that intimacy with Jesus
has more to do with Mother Grace than Father God.
Joseph Prince by saying
“This is the generation that will be intimate with Jesus
because they share the same mother of grace,”
is also clearly implying that we,
whose mother is law (which isn’t true),
and despite sharing the same Father God
with those (like Joseph Prince) whose mother is grace,
cannot enjoy intimacy with Jesus.
He is implying that we, having Father God alone
do not enjoy intimacy with Jesus,
as one more component is needed, Mother Grace
– which is a heretical statement!
The truth is,
a strong and growing relationship with Father God
is all that is needed,
not just to enjoy intimacy with Christ
but to enjoy all things,
as all things are found in Father God.
What audacity that Joseph Prince has
for making such a statement
with the aim to confuse and deceive the people?
You remember I have always been saying
that the Pseudo-grace theology is Joseph Prince’s god.
Here is my evidence
– his ‘Our mother is grace’ bizarre doctrine
is just another effort in his agenda
to promote and glorify his god
– the Pseudo-grace teaching.
When Joseph Prince’s grace teachings
are unmistakably based on perverted truths,
lies and wild assumptions,
how could any sane person embrace them?
Anyone who still chooses to vouch for Joseph Prince’s teachings
must have the stubbornness of a mule
or are people who willingly choose
to be completely deluded by their own sinful will!
Be warned.
If you continue in your wayward ways
by staying obstinately loyal to Joseph Prince,
one day, even the patient God may give up on you
and apply 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 to you!
Joseph Prince said;
Please click here
“I think that my ministry
as well as other ministries around the world
are preaching things
that other people are fighting against.
But I will never fight them.
I got no time lah, very busy. Amen.”
Joseph Prince has told a brazen lie openly
in front of his congregation, yesterday, when he said
“I will never fight them.”
This is because he fought back immediately yesterday
at the earliest opportunity
when he addressed in his sermon
what his critics wrote last week on 24 July 2024
about Rachel, Leah and his bizarre
‘Your mother is law and our mother is grace’ doctrine.
Joseph Prince also told another lie, when he said:
But I will never fight them.
I got no time lah, very busy. Amen.”
But come to think of it,
if Joseph Prince has got no time for his critics
why did he use up a large portion
of his precious sermon time yesterday
to defend against what they wrote
regarding Rachel, Leah, etc, in the first place
in front of his congregation and announce this to the world?
Is it because his critics
have now posed a credible threat to his ministry,
and that’s why he has to take them on
out in the open to the public,
by painting his critics as the bad guys
who are out to fight him and his teachings.
If that is the actual story,
our thanks to Joseph Prince for his high regards
for what his critics have done so far.
We are indeed honoured by Joseph Prince
for paying so much attention to his critics
in this sermon and his other sermons as well.
We must thank Joseph Prince
for giving us so much air time and free publicity,
and as a result of him giving us such a high profile,
we have become more famous and known to the public.
Let me give you one concrete fact
what his critics may have done to his popularity.
Are you aware that his YouTube views of his Sunday sermons
for the 11.30 am service
have dropped by about 2,000 clicks.
Usually, it is 11,000 to 12,000 over clicks.
But I have noticed recently it hovers around
9,000 to 9,000 plus clicks.
Joseph Prince said;
“And I’ll bless them.
They are still my brothers.
But brother from another mother.
They are the ones that persecute you, you understand.
If you go out there and see people saying bad things
about your church,
just say you’re my brother,
but inside say brother from another mother. Amen,
but I still love you.”
Wow, Joseph Prince said he blesses his critics
and that he loves them.
But how can Joseph Prince genuinely love them
if he himself and his cult members
are sarcastically despising them at the same time
that they are brothers from another mother.
In a sermon, Joseph Prince said;
“People who are religious will hate you.”
“The only one He (Jesus) didn’t have favour with
are the holier than thou, self-righteous people.
Okay, so you’re not above your master.
These people will still write about you.
Blog about you.
YouTube you. YouTube you.
Yes, you know.
Oh, they will do things like that. Amen.”
How can Joseph Prince
who said he blesses his critics and loves them
be scorning and slandering them publicly,
as religious and self-righteous individuals
just because they criticised his false grace teachings?
Can a person who teaches true grace
and has become world-famous
because of his grace doctrine
be behaving in that ungracious and vindictive manner?
If Joseph Prince can’t even practice what he teaches
– showing true love and true grace to his critics
– the love that he expresses to his critics
is all a farce.
Friends, this is the real Joseph Prince
that I’m unveiling for you.
Joseph Prince said;
“God is waiting for a Benjamin generation.
And he will appear just before Jesus returns
to show his second appearance to Israel.
God is waiting for a generation of Christians
that will have the same mother as him (Benjamin)
– Rachel.
Same mother, grace as him.
And I think they are in the land.”
Joseph Prince’s teaching
that there will be the final Benjamin Generation
– a generation that moves in grace and power
that will appear before the Pre-tribulation rapture
is nowhere taught in the scriptures.
No Bible teacher that I know has ever taught on this.
Joseph Prince’s use of Genesis 45:4-15
to support the justification
of such a Benjamin Generation
in his sermon yesterday,
is so twisted, incoherent, farfetched and out of this world,
that it is not worth my effort to elaborate.
The Benjamin Generation that will appear in the last days
is nothing but a figment of his own imagination.
As I was thinking about this issue,
I believe what finally clinches the argument
against Joseph Prince’s teaching
that the Benjamin Generation
would appear in the last days
is that it is based and built on a false foundation.
It is based on Benjamin’s mother – Rachel
whom Joseph Prince falsely said she represents grace
and therefore Benjamin (and Joseph) is under grace.
Hence, Joseph Prince went on to falsely conclude
that Benjamin would be the last end-time grace generation
to enjoy the gracious providence of God
in a time of conflict and difficulty.
But the truth is, there is nowhere
in the entire Bible or extra-biblical sources
that Rachel represents grace.
Even if Rachel represents grace,
there is no basis to extrapolate
that Benjamin is under grace
just because his mother represents grace.
What if Rachel’s name has got to do with death?
Does that mean that Benjamin would die before his time is up?
Rev George Ong
Appendix 1
In ‘Reading Galatians with John Stott’,
John Stott wrote (Gal 4:21-31):
“Paul’s message is addressed
to “you who want to be under the law.”
There are many such people today whose religion is legalistic.
They imagine that the way to God is by the observance of rules.
There are even professing Christians who turn the gospel into law.
Paul meets and refutes such people on their own ground.
The historical background.
The Jews boasted that they were descended
from Abraham, the father and founder of their race.
Paul argues that true descent from Abraham
is not physical but spiritual.
Abraham’s true children
are not those with an impeccable Jewish genealogy
but those who believe as Abraham believed
and obey as Abraham obeyed.
This double descent from Abraham,
the false being literal and physical,
the true being figurative and spiritual,
Paul sees illustrated in Abraham’s two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
Both had Abraham as their father,
but they were born of different mothers.
Ishmael was born into slavery,
while Isaac was born into freedom.
Ishmael was born according to nature,
but Isaac was born against nature, supernaturally,
through an exceptional promise of God.
Each of us is either an Ishmael or an Isaac,
by nature a slave or by the grace of God set free.
The allegorical argument.
God established the old covenant through Moses
and the new covenant through Christ.
God’s people under the old covenant were the Jews,
but his people under the new covenant are Christian believers.
Both are “Jerusalem,”
but the old covenant people of God, the Jews,
are “the present city of Jerusalem,”
the earthly city, while the new covenant people of God,
the Christian church,
are “the Jerusalem that is above,” the heavenly city.
Hagar and Sarah, the mothers of Abraham’s two sons,
stand for the two covenants (the old and the new)
and the two Jerusalems (the earthly and the heavenly).
The personal application.
The treatment Isaac got from his half-brother Ishmael
is the treatment that Isaac’s spiritual descendants
will get from Ishmael’s spiritual descendants.
And the treatment that Isaac got from his father Abraham
is the treatment that we must expect from God.
The persecution of the true church, of Christian believers
who trace their spiritual descent from Abraham,
is not always by the world
but by our half siblings, religious people, the nominal church.
Although Isaac endured the scorn of his half-brother Ishmael,
Isaac became heir of his father Abraham and received the inheritance.
So we must seek to be like Isaac, not like Ishmael.
We must put our trust in God through Jesus Christ.
For only in Christ can we inherit the promises,
receive the grace, and enjoy the freedom of God.”
Appendix 2
Featured YouTube comments:
@hanamel8163
“Rev George Ong, with reference to your video and article,
titled, “Joseph Prince’s gift of knowledge
is mere guesswork, the work of a con man,”
Joseph Prince mentioned someone’s toes had turned black
and now is completely healed.
He said the exact same thing in 2023
(Rev George, if you can find the video,
you would realise he repeated it twice in 2023)
when we are still in New Creation Church.
He mentioned that someone with black toes
will be completely healed, now.
But my hubby’s toes didn’t get healed immediately
but by the mercy and grace of God,
he was healed but only sometime later.
We have been in New Creation Church for 7 years.
But we have left since August 2023
after finding out Joseph Prince’s sermons
do not match with the scriptures.
Joseph Prince repeats the same common symptoms again in May 2024.
It’s a mere guessing game, Tikam Tikam
– sure to have… congregation has a lot of people
– it’s easy to pick a few common symptoms.
Even if they are healed, it is by the grace and mercy of God.
Don’t give credit to Joseph Prince or idolise this “MAN”.
The Lord is your God.”
@WordsofGodThe
“So, I think, now most of you will understand
how difficult it is to correct a double talker.
You would be accused as a fault-finder, accuser,
Pharisees, or legalistic preacher
if you do not have something to prove the case
when you try to correct him or his followers.
Obviously, when you tell him
that he is wrong about repentance in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeWX76Ngfmc&t=399s
or Holy Communion in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv01DUp94uQ&t=9s,
he will give you multiple explanations
and say that you are accusing him of something
which he never said.
I believe that he will say that we are all the accusers of him
if we could not prove it with all the videos
that show him as a liar or double-talker.
That’s why I admire Rev George’s courage and wisdom.
I appreciate all the works that he has done here
because, if it is not because of his videos and hard works here,
no one can lay a finger on him.
Rev George, good works.
Obviously, the Lord has chosen you as the right person
to counter against Joseph Prince’s lies and heresies.”
@ronpinngapinnga
“Rev Ong, appreciate your unstinting effort
in hunting down wolves in our midst.
Joseph Prince’s greatest fear
is wolf hunters around the world.
He does not even fear God
as he has no qualms
in slanting and bending biblical truths.”
@prosperian
“Such glaring misrepresentation
but yet their diehard congregation
still agreed with Amen and Amen.
I am totally speechless.
Indeed, they are under a spirit of delusion.”
@samuelkwong5590
“It is a judgement for Joseph Prince’s congregation
because that is what these people wanted.
So, Joseph Prince
say what their itchy ears like to hear
and so, they continue to be misled
and ultimately hell will be where they will be going.”
@michelleong6472
“Thank you for warning the flock, Rev Ong.
It’s appalling to hear the sad instances you have mentioned.
God is watching and He will not be mocked.
Joseph Prince will be held accountable one day by Jesus
for the damage he has caused.”
@christopherloh936
“Ask him, Joseph Prince
to go the biggest hospital in Singapore
to empty out the sick people.”
@samuelkwong5590
“These thousands upon thousands of people
who listen to Joseph Prince
are giving him the boldness
to preach more and more falsehood.
Why don’t they read the Bible for once
to know that Joseph Prince is a false teacher?
The are deceived not by Joseph Prince
but their own sinful desire,
hearing what their itchy ears like to hear.”
@user-vo3iy4ur6d
“You have to understand
what is in Joseph Prince’s mind and heart,
when he said he endeavours to speak
as the oracles of God.
First, it mesmerized and then paralysed
the analytical minds of his audience
to not check what he said with the Bible.
He promotes himself as special and a mouthpiece of God.
Over time, his audience has been oversold and bought
into what he says has “divine” authority
to reinterpret large portions of the Bible
through mix and match, add and detract,
twist and distort, cut and paste,
defining what is relevant and irrelevant.
He flips and flops, convinces and confuses
and all the while quoting the scriptures in bits and pieces
to give the impression he is speaking from the scriptures.
I have attended the Non Christian Church (New Creation Church)
for coming to 2 decades.
Most times after the service,
many wondered what did “Pastor Prince” preach today.
Many have answered,
‘I don’t know. He said many things.’
You can verify with the many people
who have attended his Sunday services.
They just want to do Sunday services
as a way of pleasing God
and fear missing out on God’s blessings
which is the bottom line.
Joseph Prince peddles the word
for unjust gains according to the Bible.
He is into the error of Balaam, ways of Balaam
and preaching the doctrines of Balaam.
And so, no way Joseph Prince can be endeavouring
to speak the oracles of God.
I tell you what he is trying to do according to the scripture.
He is trying to do the impossible
serving God and Mammon at the same time period.
Flee from him, don’t listen to his seducing teachings
which are after the seducing spirits
of the doctrines of demons.
Run quickly and far far away from him.”
@WordsofGodThe
“Yes, New Creation Church is Non Christian Church.
Hopefully, the people know that it is time
to stop ‘playing games’ with Joseph Prince
and be honest with themselves
if they really want to be a Christian.”
@samuelkwong5590
“The teaching is so grossly deviated
from the central truth of the Bible.
If only people will spend time
learning and studying the Bible,
they will soon realise this Joseph Prince
is the agent of Satan.”
@tanky815
“Joseph Prince had said he and Wendy don’t like to lie…
and hate people lying,
and to trust there is God in your life
and there is no need to lie.
Con artists are thick skin and shameless,
can lie without blinking an eyelid.
Stay away from such people.”
@TheGreenPastures
“Joseph Prince said he preached a lot of Scriptures,
but all are cheery-pick to fit his personal preference
and a lot he never even wants to talk about it.”
@lindsaylim5806
“Satan also uses scriptures.
Just read the account of the temptation of Jesus.”
@joyceliew4352
“Yes, it’s true.
Joseph Prince tries hard to convince many
that he uses scriptures to back up his preachings.
But to quote only one or few parts of the scriptures
while hiding the rest is “cheating”
just like the devil likes to do!
Joseph Prince couldn’t tolerate people who lie to him,
but he could lie to many for so many years.
God will reveal the truth one day.
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed,
and nothing concealed that will not be known
or brought out into the open.
Therefore, we pray and hope
while there’s still God’s mercy and forgiveness right now,
Joseph Prince, his entire pastoral team and leaders
would come to repentance before it is too late.”
@user-qi8rv4ez7u
“He knows he is being unmasked
by ministries here and abroad,
soundly and rightly questioning his teachings.
He has little choice but to resort to damage control
by self-promoting himself as the oracle of God.
It is laughable for a man to call himself the oracle of God,
placing himself above many other good pastors and preachers.
Amongst other things, didn’t this oracle of God
got it wrong on his crypto currency comments?
Come on, Joe, God plays no favourites.”
@edmundsim6251
“If you read the Bible,
it says clearly that Rachel stole the idols from her father
(so she is likely an idol worshiper)
and it was Leah who got buried with Issac, Sarah, Jacob and Abraham.
Rachel died halfway to Bethlehem.
The point is Leah got buried with honour with Abraham and not Rachel.
If there is a grace in this story, then it is Leah
because she isn’t loved at all.
In fact, Jacob/Israel, once again show favouritism again
to Joseph since he is Rachel’s son.
Once again, this story has a bad end
but God manifests in Joseph
by teaching him forgiveness to his brothers.
If Rachel has exercised grace like Joseph,
things may be a bit different.
The point is that, Joseph Prince
is trying to spread his Benjamin teachings
or maybe his name is called Joseph,
that is why he is twisting the story of Leah
and calling her a slave woman
and make Rachel to represent Grace.
Do you guys see anything wrong
with Joseph Prince’s teachings?”
@prosperian
“Totally agree because I have also reached the same conclusion.
@samuelkwong5590
“If you read the Bible” that is not an assumption
but the fact of all Joseph Prince’s blind followers
because they never read their Bible
nor understand how to read one
as they are being taught by one who twists the Scriptures
in all his sermons.
The devil has been twisting God’s word from the beginning.
That just tell you who Joseph Prince really is.”
@yosefguangjingchen6481
“Joseph Prince’s god is Satan.”
@davidching7803
“Joseph Prince has gravely failed
in his commission as a preacher.”
@WordsofGodThe
“When Joseph Prince said,
“I ENDEAVOUR to preach as the oracles of God, .. speaking as the oracles of God means you speak as if God is speaking through you, and God will never deviate from the scriptures .. “,
do you know what I think?
I think he is the most ‘thick-skinned’ false prophet in the world.
However, a true prophet like Moses, Samuel, Elijah, or Jeremiah
would never speak like him.
Even the Apostles like Paul, Peter, James, or John
would never tell you that they speak
as if God was speaking through them also.
Yes, we can consider their words as the oracles of God;
but that’s simply because God has chosen them
to write their letters and books to be the Bible.
However, there is no way we can consider Joseph Prince’s books
or preaching as the Bible or as the ‘extension’ of the Bible:
1. when he obviously preaches his own ‘gospels’,
2. when he obviously preaches heresies,
3. when he obviously deviates from the doctrine of Christ,
4. when he obviously preaches against the Ten Commandments,
5. when he obviously refuses to obey the great commission to preach repentance Luke 24:47-49, Matt 28:19,
6. when he obviously twisted the great commission to preach something else instead, like his own hyper grace or a holy communion that never discerns the Lord’s body.
There is another reason why I think
he is the most ‘thick-skinned’ false prophet.
A true prophet will never need to promote himself as a prophet.
He will never need to go around to tell everyone
that he is a prophet or someone who need to endeavour
to speak as the oracles of God.
He will never need to promote countless of fake miracles too.
Just one great miracle to heal the blind
or to resurrect someone
will be good enough to tell people
that he is a prophet or someone
who has a serious word for you.
However, do you know why Joseph Prince
needs to ENDEAVOUR to preach the oracles of God?
It’s because he knew that he could never speak
as the oracles of God or as God
when he is a liar who has no integrity with words,
or when he is a double-talker
who preaches all the (1) to (6) of the above.
So, when a liar or double-talker ENDEAVOUR to speak
as the oracle of God,
what will happen?
He will speak even more lies to deceive you
that he is speaking as the oracles of God.”
@lindakoo5221
“The way we know a counterfeit
is by knowing the real thing very well.
The more we focus on the truth,
the more we recognize falsehood.
The more we focus on falsehood,
the less we recognize the truth
eventually to the point of
where we accept all claims as truth.
In effect, we lose our truth filters
since they become clogged with falsehood.
There is a big difference in knowing about God
and do not KNOW God.
The false teachers themselves lead the way,
being detestable, disobedient, and worthless in God’s service.
The followers like what they hear and believe themselves
to be in good standing with God
all the while being detestable, disobedient, and worthless.
They don’t even know their true position,
accepting a lie and living their life based on it.
This is so true of Joseph Prince and New Creation Church.”
@8studio
“Let’s pray for them.”
@TheSssssssimon
“Definition of stupid: knowing the truth; seeing the truth;
still believing in Joseph Prince’s lies.
Knowledge can be learned.
But stupidly can’t be cured.
The only way is to pray.”
@prosperian
“Been praying and praying for God to correct,
chastise and rebuke Joseph Prince,
or else he will continue to lead God’s children astray.
He needs to have true repentance,
‘A change of Heart and Mind’.”
@8studio
“A Bible teacher must know the Bible well
and keep to the scriptures.
Let’s pray for Joseph Prince to come to his scenes.
God is patient so he is waiting for people to repent.
Let’s pray.”
@InChristAlone7
“He must and need to repent first,
or else judgment will begin in his church.”
@lindsaylim5806
“Will Joseph Prince ever repent??
He even dared to change the meaning of the word ‘repentance’.”
@WordsofGodThe
“I have read what Kristen Jane Lin wrote to Rev George recently.
She mentioned that 4 people
from the New Creation Church families,
whom she knew died
because of Covid or during Covid.
I personally know another New Creation Church family
whose son committed suicide
while he was still a student around that time too.
The reason for his death was not disclosed
but I guessed it’s because of BGR problem.
However, all these deaths and many deaths
which we do not have the full data,
simply show that Joseph Prince’s teachings
or promises of a ‘better life’ are questionable.
Yes, every church has people who will die.
However, it is a different story if he ENDEAVOURS
to tell the people that they would ‘never’ die or become sick
because of his ‘anointed’ preaching
on ‘eating your way to life’,
on his 2019 vision of the ‘latter rain outpouring’
which turned out to be a curse (as the Covid-2019),
on hyper grace, on his speaking of the oracles of God,
and on many things which turned out to be heretical and not true.
Actually, when he ENDEAVOURS to speak and preach all these,
he is ENDEAVOURING to lie!”
Note this comment is a critique of my website:
@estherjoy7042
“I appreciate when being rightly corrected
by brethren in the same faith.
I believe Bro Joe would, too.
But to assault a brethren’s character by calling him/her
evil and a liar, this ought not be so.
Yes, Bro Joe did misquote the Holy Scriptures sometimes,
but who did not?
Let the one who commits no mistake cast the first stone.
We are called to be overseers of our brethren
in love and not attackers.
May our Father God, grant you more mercies,
precious Rev George Ong.”
These are the comments of those
who wrote against the above critic:
@lindsaylim5806
“Seems like you are living in your own world
and didn’t know that God had sent different ones
to confront Joseph Prince over the years.
Instead of repenting, Joseph Prince became worse
and introduced more heretical teachings over time.
Isn’t such behaviour evil and rebellious?
Abusing God’s Words, God’s name and Holy Communion
– aren’t all these wickedness?
Misleading multitudes of sheep all over the world
– isn’t this evil and wickedness?
How can he be a Christian brother
when he is preaching another Christ and another gospel?
Every true believer should be contending for the faith
and calling out all evil and unrepentant false teacher.”
@WordsofGodThe
“Do you know why a liar
(in the doctrine of Christ or in the body of Christ)
can continue to lie for more than 20 years?
It is because many people think
that they can ‘play games’ along with him.
However, the Bible shows us that,
when we know that a preacher is a liar
with the clear intention to mock at God, mock at the Bible,
mock at the doctrine and sermon of the Lord,
or mock at the brethren who preaches the truth,
we don’t ‘play games’ along with him;
in fact, there is no need to do so:
Act 5:3-11 KJV
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? (4) Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. (5) And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things .. .. (11) And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.
Why was this recorded in the Bible?
It shows that if we are God’s servants,
there is no need to lie, pretend, or ‘play games’ with a liar
who will lie or keep lying in the kingdom of God.”
@joyceliew4352
“Hi Esther,
Thank you very much for your kind comments.
*May we ask if you have watched all of Rev Ong’s videos
or read his articles way before Covid?
*Are you aware that Rev Ong and many other Bible teachers
had “kindly” and “with much patience”
warned Joseph Prince of his constant heresy
throughout the years?
Hoping Joseph Prince would come to his senses
and repent from his heresy?
*If you have been lied to
or being treated unjustly for many years,
what will you say of that person who did that to you?
Do you want justice?
Do you warn others not to fall into the same pit
you have fallen into?
*Have you personally taken time
to study The Word of God like the Berean in Book of Acts?
*Are you the kind of person who trust a preacher
based on its popularity and the extravaganza platform?
*Have you been involved in any ministry in New Creation Church?
Do you join New Creation Church Caregroup?
*How much do you know about your pastors
and your leaders in dealing church affairs?
*Have you encountered difficult situations
where you would like to enquire pastors or leaders
but being turned down because the situation asked
was unfavourable to them?
*You were right?
Who doesn’t quote Bible wrongly?
Who doesn’t sin?
Who doesn’t have weaknesses?
We all do!
But it is wickedness when one does not want to own up,
yet continue to repeat the same sins again and again!
*Can you see the difference?
*Would you even try to understand?
The Bible clearly told us Christ our Saviour
is full of grace and mercy to forgive and to restore us
when we repent and change from our wicked ways.
But sadly, Joseph Prince would not repent
because he doesn’t fear God!
Therefore, he has become very proud
and would not accept any corrections.
Joseph Prince has placed his trust
on New Creation Church’s big platform,
where he has many pastors and leaders to back him up.
Oh…also supporters like you who made up the majority.
Therefore, please ask yourself
who is the one truly being gracious,
kind and with mercy here?
Was it the one who kept hiding the truth from the sheep,
or the one who keep sounding the alarm
to warn there’s a wolf in sheepskin among the sheep?
Have a blessed day.”
@edmundsim6251
“Did you even watch this video and many others.
It is not a matter of misquote.
He calls Leah a slave in this video.
And he calls himself a prophet of God
by claiming he has an oracle.
How do you as Pastor misquote something
that is so plain and clearcut?
Isn’t that the same as lying in court
after making an oath with the Bible
to speak only the truth?”
@vijayrem-mn6id
“First-rate deceivers will do everything
to cloak their half-truths and lies.
If you think Joseph Prince is not a liar,
then the onus is upon you to prove it.
Would you want to test the truth
of his teaching on Holy Communion
by committing yourself and loved ones
to refusing all medical help,
and partaking only of the Holy Communion
in the event of any sickness?
Would Joseph Prince or his aides commit likewise?
You have to put your money where your mouth is.
The onus too is upon you
to prove that Joseph Prince misquotes scripture
and isn’t twisting it deliberately.
You can’t just make facile statements without proof.
Jesus’ word is those “without sin” not “without mistake”
as you have put it.
Casting the first stone is not about zipping up one’s mouth
in the face of deliberate lies and crass falsehood.
False teachers
“must be silenced because they are ruining whole families by teaching what they shouldn’t teach. This is the shameful way they make money'” (Titus 1:11 GW).
And “not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world” (1 John 4:1 MSG)
By way of digression, it may be noted that
“All men have eyes to see.
Few have the gift of penetration”.
Therein lies the intrinsic value of Rev George Ong’s channel
– opening blinded eyes
and disabusing manipulated minds of pernicious lies.”
@InChristAlone7
“Sister, are you so spiritually blinded
that you cannot see the difference between true and false?
Joseph Prince did not misquote Holy Scriptures
sometimes but every time.
He cleverly camouflages the truth with half-truths.
Rev George Ong with God’s Love,
is helping to debunk his half-truth
by pointing us to the truth.
Suggest you read the Bible together with the Holy Spirit
and your will know the truth
and the truth shall set you free.”
Note this comment is a critique of my website:
@JJDaddy-ye4hh
“I don’t know what to say about George….
You say you’re a Rev, Dr, Pastor, whatever….
I don’t think God called you into ministry.
If He did…. You’d be so busy ministering to your sheep
that you have no time to criticise others….
Joe Prince in the other hand have no time for you….
That says it all.”
These are the comments of those
who wrote against the above critic:
@yosefguangjingchen6481
“It is not criticise.
It is called evaluating someone’s false teaching.
It is foolish for a Christian
not discerning whether a preacher is preaching falsely
and keep protecting such person.”
@lindsaylim5806
“Joseph Prince only has time for $$$$…
con people by selling his heretical teaching weekly…
Why need to pay $$$ to listen to anti-Christ teachings??
Have you or New Creation Church folks ever asked that??
Other churches’ sermons are free for all to listen.
Ask yourself why Joseph Prince has to charge for all his sermons??
Rev George Ong is feeding God’s sheep
by warning us about the wolves in our midst.”
@user-qi8rv4ez7u
“Joseph Prince ministering to the sheep?
Better clear the cobwebs from the eyes.
Bluffing the sheep,
seeing them as the thousands of ATMs before him.”
@joyceliew4352
@JJDaddy-ye4hh
Hi beloved,
May we kindly ask which part of Rev Ong’s teachings
is criticizing about Joseph Prince?
You mean you agree that Leah is a bond woman
and her sons represent the law?
Do you know who are the 12 Tribes of Israelites
whom God has chosen?
The Bible has clearly written in
Genesis 35:23-26 that these are the names of the 12 sons of Jacob:
[23] The sons of Leah were Reuben the firstborn of Jacob, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, and Zebulun.
[24] The sons of Rachel were Joseph and Benjamin.
[25] The sons of Rachel’s maidservant Bilhah were Dan and Naphtali.
[26] And the sons of Leah’s maidservant Zilpah were Gad and Asher.
These are the sons of Jacob, who were born to him in Paddan-aram.
Mind you, LEAH gave birth to JUDAH.
Our LORD JESUS came from the Tribe of JUDAH.
Do you have any idea what Joseph Prince has done
in preaching such heresy about The Son of God, Jesus Christ?
You should be grateful that a servant of God
took time to reveal The Truth.
Please open up The Bible and read it all for yourself.
We pray that God will soften your heart for corrections.”
@InChristAlone7
Rev George Ong is a Watchman.
He obeyed the teaching in the Bible
by pointing out false doctrines.
May thy Holy Spirit Wisdom and Word of Knowledge
be upon him. Amen and Amen.”
@user-hd7qv8dx7x
“Why doesn’t Joseph Prince say that tithe means tenth is Law?
So, don’t tithe?? Scratch head!!”