Main Title: Joseph Prince conned his people he is saved & his no-sanctification gospel is heretical

 

Sub Title: Joseph Prince conned his people that Paul focuses on justification & not sanctification

 

– By Rev George Ong (Dated 16 April 2024)

 

Announcement No 1:

 

As usual, there are much rubbish

 

that Joseph Prince spewed out

 

in his sermons on 7 and 14 Apr 2024 (last Sunday)

 

but because of my other commitments,

 

I will not be able to address them until (and from) next week.

 

But better late than never.

 

So, this is the only article to be featured this week.

 

Announcement No 2:

 

Note there is 1 audio on Derek Prince,

 

2 videos on George Ong

 

There are 3 videos on Joseph Prince,

 

one of which (Part 1)

 

is not shown on YouTube but in the Article

 

because it is a later addition.

 

Announcement No 3:

 

Appendix 1: Featured YouTube comments.

 

Appendix 2: Verbatim notes of the YouTube video.

 

Properly written notes (not verbatim)

 

of my YouTube teaching

 

are given in the Article proper.

 

Excerpt taken from the Article:

 

In summary,

 

from these 4 passages,

 

which are clearly sanctification texts,

 

and I will be surfacing more of such passages

 

when opportunities arise;

 

this shows that Joseph Prince had lied,

 

when he defined Paul’s preaching and Paul’s revelation

 

as only limited to the justification theme such as

 

the righteousness of God in Christ.

 

This is only the one half of what Paul taught.

 

The other half of what Paul taught in his epistles

 

were the sanctification passages,

 

examples of which are the 4 passages that I have surfaced.  

 

His people are unaware

 

simply because Joseph Prince

 

has ‘hidden’ these passages from them

 

by not teaching on such sanctification passages. 

 

Why?

 

The reason is Joseph Prince

 

is against the doctrine of sanctification.

 

Yet, he has the shamelessness to lie publicly

 

that he believes in sanctification,

 

and even dared to put up the doctrine on his website.

 

As I have said more than once,

 

the reason for doing so

 

is not that Joseph Prince believes in it,

 

but as a form of damage control

 

because he was exposed by Michael Brown

 

for not teaching on progressive sanctification

 

which is entirely biblical. 

 

So, if one were to take a wholistic view of Paul’s teaching,

 

one would come to the conclusion

 

that Paul is not only a justification preacher,

 

but he is also a sanctification preacher at the same time.

 

Hence, to Paul,

 

sanctification is as important a theme as justification

 

in the overall scheme of his salvation doctrine.

 

But as for Joseph Prince,

 

his salvation doctrine differs from Paul

 

because it has no place for sanctification.

 

Hence, Joseph Prince by preaching

 

an only justification but no-sanctification salvation doctrine,

 

which is against the doctrine of the Reformation Fathers,

 

is a heretic

 

– and a heretic is to be avoided at all costs.

 

Prelude:

 

In a previous article,

 

Joseph Prince’s Allegorical Interpretation – that a dog can even be interpreted into a cat – By Rev George Ong (Dated 20 Jan 2024),

 

Joseph Prince said the name ‘Eutychus’ means fortunate,

 

then suddenly, it means fortune,

 

then suddenly, it means prosperous,

 

then suddenly, it means success.

 

Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 5-second video:

 

“In some word studies,

 

you find the name, Eutychus, is prosperous.

 

So, it’s fortunate or prosperous,

 

or you can say successful.” 

 

I searched many books

 

but I can’t find that Eutychus directly means prosperous

 

(and I don’t mean secondarily derived

 

by Joseph Prince from his own analysis

 

as he may have liberally done).

 

So, Joseph Prince,

 

needs to tell us which book he is referring to.

 

It has been more than 3 months,

 

and I still have not heard from him.

 

So, I am pressing Joseph Prince one last time.

 

If he chooses to keep silent,

 

then, we must come to the conclusion

 

that Joseph Prince lied when he said

 

that the name Eutychus means prosperous.

 

(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)

 

Part 1

 

(Note this Part is not shown on YouTube because it is a later addition.)

 

In a sermon on 7 Apr 2024, 2 Sundays ago, Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 20-second video:

 

“Just like Romans 8:16,

 

we learn the Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit

 

that we are children of God.

 

You see, how do you know you are a child of God?

 

The Holy Spirit and your spirit bears witness.

 

I can’t explain it.

 

I do not know all the verses;

 

I’m a young Christian.

 

I’m a young believer.

 

I just know I am saved.”

 

Joseph Prince defended he is saved and quoted Romans 8:16

 

as the basis for the certainly of his salvation:

 

Romans 8:16 NKJV

 

16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit

 

that we are children of God,

 

But whether one is saved or not

 

cannot just be dependent subjectively on one’s judgement.

 

According to the scriptures,

 

there are objective standards of measures.

 

As usual, the deceptive Joseph Prince

 

only tells you the half-truth in Romans 8:16,

 

but he ‘hides’ the other half-truths in 1 John 2:3-4

 

and many other passages from you. 

 

Joseph Prince may claim that he is saved.

 

But the test is whether Joseph Prince obeys God,

 

and, in particular, His commandments.

 

For John, the importance of obedience lies in this

 

– that only in the obeying of Christ’s commandments

 

can we be certain that we know Him (1 Jn 2:3):

 

1 John 2:3 NLT

 

3 “And we can be sure that we know him

 

if we obey his commandments.”

 

In other words,

 

without the evidence of obedience,

 

one does not know God.

 

Obedience to God’s commands

 

is proof that one knows God

 

and the evidence of salvation.

 

The proof of knowing God

 

is in the keeping of His commandments.

 

Knowing the Lord is, in a sense, synonymous

 

with obeying or keeping His commandments.

 

For salvation to be genuine,

 

obedience is mandatory:

 

1 John 2:4 NLT

 

4 “If someone claims, “I know God,”

 

but doesn’t obey God’s commandments,

 

that person is a liar

 

and is not living in the truth.”

 

True faith must finally be proven by our obedience;

 

and specifically, to God’s commandments.

 

According to 1 John 2:4,

 

disobedience to God’s commandments

 

can disqualify us as a Christian.

 

And also, according to 1 John 2:3-4,

 

if one claims he knows Christ

 

and isn’t prepared to obey His commandments,

 

one would be called a liar.

 

And the place for liars, according to Revelation 21:8

 

is the lake of fire.

 

By this definition in 1 John 2:3-4,

 

Joseph Prince qualifies himself

 

to be called a liar and an unbeliever,

 

as he teaches there are no more laws or commandments to obey

 

for New Covenant people.

 

PART 2

 

Please click here

 

to view the entire video.

 

The verbatim notes of this video

 

are given in Appendix 2.

 

In a Sunday sermon aired on YouTube,

 

3 Mar 2024, Joseph Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 15-second video:

 

“He (Eutychus) was looking outside.

 

He was looking outside.

 

And then, he listened to the sermon.

 

And then, he was looking outside,

 

listening to the sermon.

 

It was Paul’s sermon.

 

So, the truth of Paul’s revelation is mentioned here.

 

He fell asleep at the revelation of Paul

 

which is what?

 

The revelation of righteousness in Christ.”

 

How does Joseph Prince know

 

that Paul preached on the righteousness of God in Christ

 

the night when Eutychus fell asleep?

 

Why is he always insisting in his sermons and writings

 

that Paul’s revelation

 

has got to be the righteousness of God in Christ,

 

– that just have to do with justification?

 

Paul, on the same night when Eutychus fell asleep,

 

could also have preached on sanctification themes like:

 

1 Timothy 4:16 NIV

16 Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.

 

1 Timothy 6:9-12 NIV

Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. 11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. 12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

 

2 Timothy 2:11-13 NIV

11 Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 if we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us; 13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

 

2 Corinthians 13:5 NIV

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you – unless, of course, you fail the test?

 

The big deception of Joseph Prince

 

is that he has conned his people 

 

that Paul’s revelation

 

is only on the justification theme

 

such as the righteousness of God in Christ.

 

But that is only one half of the truth.

 

This is because there are many sanctification themes

 

that Paul also preached

 

that Joseph Prince has ‘hidden’ from his people

 

by not preaching them.

 

In a teaching session, George Ong said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 1-minute-40-second video:

 

The verbatim notes of this video

 

are given in Appendix 2.

 

Properly written notes are given here.

 

Passage No 1:

 

1 Timothy 4:16 NIV

16 Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.

 

How can man save himself (1 Tim 4:16)

 

when God is the one who saves?

 

I thought you cannot save yourself?

 

Yes, getting saved depends on God’s grace,

 

but staying saved depends to a large extent on you.

 

Although you get saved by the grace of God,

 

you must stay saved by persevering.

 

Staying saved is your responsibility.

 

How?

 

By watching and persevering

 

in your life and doctrine

 

So, who says doctrine is not important.

 

Who does the persevering?

 

God or You?

 

You of course!

 

Persevering is your responsibility.

 

God is not going to do it for you.

 

That is not to say

 

that you can’t ask God for strength as you persevere

 

or God will not help you to persevere.

 

But the point is

 

you have to take ownership and initiative to persevere.

 

Persevere by living right and believing right,

 

and you will save yourself and your hearers:

 

1 Timothy 4:16 NIV

16 Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.

 

Don’t listen to the lie of Joseph Prince

 

that you need not worry about living right

 

because once you have right believing,

 

your right living will automatically follow.

 

The scripture never teaches the way

 

that Joseph Prince teaches.

 

Both are important

 

and both must be striven for.

 

One cannot just focus on right believing

 

and hoping that right living will automatically follow.

 

Paul stressed both life (behaviour) and doctrine (teaching)

 

in his epistles and especially here in this passage.

 

Such would be exceptionally vital

 

for someone like Timothy, who was a preacher.

 

By persevering in a holy life and sound teaching,

 

Timothy would save himself,

 

as well as those he teaches.

 

Why would we need to ensure our salvation

 

if it was already secured?

 

This Scripture only makes sense

 

if it is possible to lose your salvation.

 

If you are always saved anyway,

 

then why is Paul instructing Timothy

 

to pay close attention and to continue in these things

 

and that by doing these things,

 

he will save himself and his hearers?

 

If Timothy is once saved, always saved,

 

then he would already have secured his salvation

 

regardless of whether or not

 

he does these things.

 

In a sermon, Derek Prince said;

 

Please click here

 

to listen the 1-minute audio:

 

The verbatim notes of this audio

 

are given in Appendix 2.

 

“Then in 1 Timothy 4:16 Paul says to Timothy:

 

“Take heed to yourself and to the doctrines;

 

continue in them, for in doing this

 

you will save both yourself

 

and those who hear you.”

 

I think it’s important that Paul said first of all

 

take heed to yourself,

 

secondly to the doctrines.

 

If you are wrong in your personal life,

 

right doctrine will not accomplish what it should.

 

But if you continue in both

 

you will save yourself and those who hear you.

 

And for me it’s important to save myself.

 

Not everybody has that perspective

 

but I don’t take it for granted that I’m saved

 

or that I will be saved.”

 

In the light of what Derek Prince said;

 

Peter also said the same thing:

 

Acts 2:38-41 NIV

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.” 40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

 

While salvation is chiefly an act of God’s grace,

 

there is also a place to save ourselves

 

by repenting and believing

 

and as part of our sanctification.

 

In a teaching session, George Ong said;

 

Please click here

 

to view the 5-minute video:

 

The verbatim notes of this video

 

are given in Appendix 2.

 

Properly written notes are given here.

 

Passage No 2:

 

1 Timothy 6:9-12 NIV

Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. 11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. 12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

 

1 Timothy 6:11-12 NLT

11 But you, Timothy, are a man of God…12 Hold tightly to the eternal life to which God has called you…

 

1 Timothy 6:11-12 NCV

11 But you, man of God12 grabbing hold of the life that continues forever…

 

1 Timothy 6:1-12 TLB

11 O Timothy, you are God’s man… 12 Hold tightly to the eternal life that God has given you…

 

1 Timothy 6:11-12 GNT

11 But you, man of God12 and win eternal life for yourself; for it was to this life that God called you….

 

As it is with many other passages,

 

1 Timothy 6:11-12

 

indicates and stresses the responsibility of man

 

to keep holding on, grab hold,

 

hold tightly to the eternal life

 

to which we have been given.

 

If we don’t hold on to the eternal life,

 

we may lose it.

 

In 1 Timothy 6:9-12,

 

was referring to other former Christians he knew

 

that wandered away from their salvation,

 

because of their desire to get rich.

 

Paul knew of many people who did not stay saved,

 

but who turned from their own salvation,

 

apart from God’s will,

 

and got back on the road to destruction

 

and damnation once again.

 

The Greek word translated destruction

 

in 1 Timothy 6:9

 

is also found in Matthew 7:13

 

and refers to spiritual destruction:

 

Matthew 7:13-14 NIV

13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

 

According to Paul,

 

Christians who hanker after material wealth

 

can go from temptation to harmful desires

 

to their own spiritual destruction.

 

Passage No 3:

 

2 Timothy 2:11-13 NIV

11 Here is a trustworthy saying:

If we died with him,

    we will also live with him;

12 if we endure,

    we will also reign with him.

If we disown him,

    he will also disown us;

13 if we are faithless,

    he remains faithful,

    for he cannot disown himself.

 

The statement I want you to take note is in V12:

 

‘If we disown him, he will disown us.’

 

Who are the ‘we’?

 

Not non-believers

 

but believers.

 

If we say that the first four ‘we’ in V11 & 12a

 

refer to believers,

 

then to be consistent,

 

we must also say that the last two ‘we’ in V12b & 13

 

must also refer to believers.

 

Furthermore, Paul is the one who wrote

 

the letter of 2 Timothy.

 

When he writes ‘we’,

 

he is including himself in all the six ‘we’ from V11-13.

 

Is Paul a Christian or non-Christian.

 

Christian of course!

 

So here is the clear possibility

 

that a disciple once was owned by Christ

 

can be disowned by him on the day

 

when books are opened. 

 

And even the great but humble apostle Paul

 

is not excluding himself

 

from the possibility of disowning Christ

 

as he used the word ‘we’.

 

I want you to look at 2 Timothy 2:13 again:

 

‘if we are faithless, he will remain faithful’.

 

Does this mean that whatever we do,

 

even though we are faithless,

 

even if we turn away from Christ as an apostate,

 

Jesus will not break off the relationship,

 

that He will remain faithful?

 

That’s the verse that Joseph Prince

 

holding the once saved, always saved position

 

would love to quote in support of his position.

 

But that’s not what it means

 

because the entire three verses (V11-13)

 

would have to be quoted.

 

The rest of V13 makes it quite clear

 

that Jesus will remain faithful to himself

 

and his principles rather than to us.

 

Though we may change and become faithless,

 

he will not, ‘for he cannot disown himself’.

 

But even if that means that Christ will not disown us

 

if we are faithless, (assuming that were true)

 

it will bring the three verses into contradiction.

 

One moment the passage says

 

Christ will disown us if we disown Him in V12.

 

The next moment it says Christ will not disown us

 

if we are faithless and disown him in V13.

 

This would be clearly self-contradictory

 

and therefore, cannot be the meaning of the verse

 

because the Scriptures cannot contradict itself.

 

So clearly V13 cannot be interpreted

 

as Christ will not disown us no matter what

 

because V12 had already explicitly said

 

he would, if we disown Him.

 

If God did not disown such a person,

 

he would be disowning himself

 

by going against his Word. 

 

By teaching that Christ will not disown us if we disown Him

 

makes Jesus a liar because of what He said in Matthew 10:33.

 

Most importantly,

 

it will contradict Christ’s own teaching in Matthew 10:33:

 

Matthew 10:33 NIV

33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.

 

This saying quoted by Paul in 2 Timothy 2:11-13

 

is an almost exact quotation from Jesus himself in Matthew 10:33.

 

‘But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.’

 

Who were these spoken to in Matthew 10:33?

 

Not unbelievers.

 

Jesus spoke these words in Matthew 10:33 to his 12 disciples.

 

Matthew 10:5 gives the context:

 

Matthew 10:5 NIV

These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.

 

One of them, Judas did more than disown him,

 

he betrayed Jesus.

 

And Jesus will disown him on the Day of Judgment.

 

This clearly debunks the once saved, always saved doctrine of Joseph Prince

 

– that if a believer disowns Christ,

 

particularly under persecution,

 

Christ will disown him.

 

This simply means that the salvation that he gains is now lost.

 

Passage No 4:

 

2 Corinthians 13:5 NIV

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you – unless, of course, you fail the test?

 

Paul clearly taught there is place to examine oneself

 

to see whether we are still in the faith.

 

But Joseph Prince teaches against Paul directly

 

when he teaches there is no place for a Christian

 

to examine himself or herself.

 

In Destined To Reign,’

 

Joseph Prince wrote:

 

“Stop examining yourself

 

and searching your heart for sin.”

 

“Remember, it is not about examining yourself

 

for sin and making yourself worthy to partake.”

 

In ‘The Power of Right Believing,’

 

Joseph Prince wrote:

 

“… why are you still struggling in self-occupation

 

and relentlessly examining your own thoughts,

 

emotions, failures, and shortcomings?

 

Trust me, the longer you examine yourself,

 

the more you will find imperfections, blemishes, spots, and wrinkles.

 

Turn your eyes away from yourself

 

and stop the self-introspection!”

 

If Joseph Prince teaches against Paul;

 

and this is not the only time that he has done so,

 

he had blatantly lied

 

when he claimed that Paul was his mentor

 

that he learned his grace doctrine from.   

 

In summary,

 

from these 4 passages,

 

which are clearly sanctification texts,

 

and I will be surfacing more of such passages

 

when opportunities arise;

 

this shows that Joseph Prince had lied,

 

when he defined Paul’s preaching and Paul’s revelation

 

as only limited to the justification theme such as

 

the righteousness of God in Christ.

 

This is only the one half of what Paul taught.

 

The other half of what Paul taught in his epistles

 

were the sanctification passages,

 

examples of which are the 4 passages that I have surfaced.   

 

His people are unaware

 

simply because Joseph Prince

 

has ‘hidden’ these passages from them

 

by not teaching on such sanctification passages. 

 

Why?

 

The reason is Joseph Prince

 

is against the doctrine of sanctification.

 

Yet, he has the shamelessness to lie publicly

 

that he believes in sanctification,

 

and even dared to put up the doctrine on his website.

 

As I have said more than once,

 

the reason for doing so

 

is not that Joseph Prince believes in it,

 

but as a form of damage control

 

because he was exposed by Michael Brown

 

for not teaching on progressive sanctification

 

which is entirely biblical.  

 

So, if one were to take a wholistic view of Paul’s teaching,

 

one would come to the conclusion

 

that Paul is not only a justification preacher,

 

but he is also a sanctification preacher at the same time.

 

Hence, to Paul,

 

sanctification is as important a theme as justification

 

in the overall scheme of his salvation doctrine.

 

But as for Joseph Prince,

 

his salvation doctrine differs from Paul

 

because it has no place for sanctification.

 

Hence, Joseph Prince by preaching

 

an only justification but no-sanctification salvation doctrine,

 

which is against the doctrine of the Reformation Fathers,

 

is a heretic

 

– and a heretic is to be avoided at all costs.

 

Rev George Ong

 

Appendix 1

 

Featured YouTube comments:

 

@philipchan3641

 

“I only cannot understand

 

why seemingly intelligent persons

 

can continue to attend his services and be lied to. 

 

Simply amazing when the Devil can do!”

 

@cutecuteoldold

 

“Mr Joseph Singh aka Joseph Prince

 

ought to be advised to step down

 

for the heresies he is guilty of.

 

What is the National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) doing?”

 

@user-hd7qv8dx7x

 

“1 John 3:7-9:

 

“Little children, let no one (Joseph Prince included) deceive you.

 

He who practices righteousness is righteous

 

just as He is righteous…”

 

Joseph Prince and Benny Hinn

 

tell us to confess we are the righteousness of God in Christ,

 

but the Bible tells us to practice righteousness

 

just as Jesus is righteous.

 

Joseph Prince tells us to talk the walk.

 

The Bible tells us to walk the talk.”

 

@logerkenn6331

 

“‘I am the Righteousness of GOD in Christ Jesus;’

 

this is the phase which was promoted heavily in New Creation Church

 

which I thought was a revelation of Joseph Prince by THE LORD.

 

That which was then incorporated into a teaching in one of his books.

 

Now I realized that he is not the original dealer

 

but a copy from Benny Hinn.

 

During the promotion,

 

there were many videos and testimonies from all over

 

testifying that they have had breakthroughs

 

by declaring the phrase,

 

even in the midst of sinning.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“Yes, indeed, that’s the trademark phrase of New Creation Church.

 

A sister shared with me how she could confess anytime:

 

‘I am still the righteousness of God in Christ’

 

every time she finished sowing discord

 

among her colleagues at work.

 

I was shocked!

 

She didn’t even show any guilt consciousness

 

but some more said it with much confidence!

 

These are the ‘seeds’ that have been sown into New Creation Church

 

by Joseph Prince and his pastors

 

that resulted these kind of bad ‘fruit’

 

which Jesus said He would destroy.”

 

@cutecuteoldold

 

“I wasted a few years attending New Creation Church.

 

I am a note-taker but my book was always empty;

 

nothing noteworthy to record.

 

Mr Joseph Singh (His surname is Singh)

 

has to go to a Bible college to get his doctrines right.

 

The New Creation Church congregation is in slumber.

 

If they know the Word,

 

they would have left as I did (more than 16 years ago).”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

Yes, Joseph Prince has ‘inherited’ almost everything from Benny Hinn,

 

including the confession, facial expression, body language, speaking tone, and even ‘spirit’.

 

When they close their eyes and point their fingers at you,

 

you can almost feel the aura of ‘power and anointing’

 

in the atmosphere too.

 

Yes, Joseph Prince, being a younger pastor

 

who was addicted to occultic practices at that time

 

was certainly sensitive enough to pick up this ‘skill’

 

to bring you into ‘that dimension of the unknown’ or ‘hypnotism’ too –

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XaiOcJGmW8&t=375s

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XaiOcJGmW8&t=144s

 

Actually, Peter had warned Simon

 

against the use of the Holy Spirit

 

for occultic motives and carnal gains;

 

however, many greedy preachers today

 

(especially those who have not repented

 

and have not been delivered

 

from their occultic addiction and satanic doctrine)

 

are now running the churches.

 

No wonder people are still drawn to these preachers

 

who have some kind of ‘hypnotic charisma’

 

even after they have been exposed

 

as false prophets, heretics, antinomians, and liars.”

 

@user-iu3dm5qk7p

 

“In fact, the phrase

 

‘I am the righteousness of God in Christ’

 

was coined by Kenneth Hagin (1917-2003).

 

But Joseph Prince in his cunning way

 

makes people think it is his revelation.”

 

@user-hd7qv8dx7x

 

“The early church was born out of persecution.

 

Most of New Creation Church are people born out of

 

prosperity, comfort, effortless success, and Sunday church goers.

 

Paul’s preaching included warnings: Col 1:28, Acts 2:40, Rom 2:8-9, 2 Thess 1:8-9, Gal 1:7-8.

 

Joseph Prince said he preach the way Paul preaches, which is nonsense.

 

Joseph Prince’s messages are sugar coated with toxin,

 

and he doesn’t teach to deny self but to gratify self.”

 

@cutecuteoldold

 

“Joseph Singh Prince can’t even pronounce tithe

 

with the TH sound at the back.

 

He mispronounces it as tie.

 

He seems to relish in his new revelations

 

concocted by his own vain misinterpretations.

 

He thinks he is obliged to astound the hearers with his heresies

 

which he can only claim were from God

 

God doesn’t contradict His word.

 

God is not the author of confusion.

 

He tries hard to impress even by wearing jackets

 

He imagines God speaks to Him.”

 

@joyceliew4352

 

“Amen. Thank you, Rev George Ong

 

for the clear explanation of Matthew 24.

 

You taught it clearly, and indeed, it was what Jesus meant.

 

I myself also studied and it can be clearly understood

 

IF WE WILLING to accept the truth by faith!

 

What really saddened me was Joseph Prince and his pastors

 

played stupid whenever they wanted to hide the truth from us.

 

Suddenly, they will stop explaining the verses in Hebrew or Greek.

 

Why?

 

Because if they do, it will expose their lies!

 

Take for example for Matthew 24:40,

 

they could have shown us the word TAKEN and

LEFT BEHIND

 

in Greek Lexicon explanations,

 

and it will tell what does it mean!

 

Just like one of the commentators, who explained it clearly in this video.

 

Even in AMP version, it is clearly explained.”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“Nowadays, we are living in a wicked and confused world

 

because it is a world where the liars will get protected

 

but truth and sound mind get persecuted.

 

It is because if you were Mr. Sound Mind with a lot of questions,

 

you cannot question me or disagree with me, for example:

 

1. if I say, ‘Mosquitoes die’ or ‘hair grows’ and you say I am lying, I can use the law to deal with you.

 

2. if I say, ‘You can live up to 120 years old by following me’ and you say I am a liar, I can send lawyer’s letter to you.

 

3. if I say, ‘This year is the year of latter rain instead of the year of covid’ and you say I lie, I can silent you with lots of supporters from the social media.

 

4. if I say, ‘There is no more law’ and you say I am a false prophet, I can threaten you for being legalistic, negative, unloving, or unforgiving.

 

5. … etc.

 

So, can you see how difficult it is to go against the liars?

 

Most of the time, you can’t even question them

 

if they are from big hypocritical churches

 

that have a great following.

 

Sometimes, the hypocritical pastors or deacons from other churches

 

might even support these liars too,

 

and tell you to be more loving, to compromise,

 

and not to disagree with them

 

because they can ‘save souls’ too.

 

However, if we are living in such a world

 

where liars are much more protected (for lying)

 

than sound mind (for questioning),

 

I hope that things will be different in the kingdom of God

 

where liars will be exposed immediately

 

(or rather where liars are not allowed to go).

 

Rev George, keep up the good work.

 

Your work is a testimony to the kingdom of God;

 

but a threat to the liars.”

 

@NorthernGate777

 

“If you are submitted to God,

 

you will learn not to fear any pastor,

 

whoever they claim to be.

 

You will want to do the will of God.”

 

@cutecuteoldold

 

“Why would Joseph Singh aka Joseph Prince

 

emphasise that though the Israelites murmured and complained,

 

yet, no one died

 

Why was this important? (he lied about it)

 

Is it so that we should murmur and complain

 

and test God and not be punished.”

 

@veralinc8117

 

“It’s all about his egoistic self.

 

Yet another example of his devious ways in a 7 Apr 2024 sermon,

 

Joseph Prince told of a CEO friend,

 

who said Joseph Prince was a prophet.

 

This is to distract people’s attention 

 

from the extreme embarrassment and wounded vanity stinging him

 

because of his failure to predict the Israel-Hamas war.

 

Trying to salvage the false image of an anointed preacher.”

 

@user-gp1tm1my4l

 

“Thank you for waking me up

 

while I thought I have at last found

 

a Godly good preacher.”

 

@cutecuteoldold

 

“Well done, Pastor George Ong.

 

Joseph Prince – Singh needs deliverance from the spirit of lies.”

 

@user-hd7qv8dx7x

 

“Joseph Prince teaches the opposite of the Bible.

 

The Bible says,

 

‘Confess your sins and obey His commandments.’

 

Joseph Prince says,

 

‘Confess you are the righteousness of God in Christ

 

and the commandments are not relevant.’

 

@leehazel3418

 

“Nowadays, there are more demons in churches

 

than true, faithful Christians.

 

Some churches going for popularity and building a dynasty. 

 

Hypocrisy and demon worship in churches worldwide.

 

Pastors are also being deceived.

 

@cutecuteoldold

 

“God Our Father IS in heaven.

 

He knows our thoughts;

 

He knows our comings in and goings out.

 

WHERE is the distance?

 

Joseph Singh – Prince,

 

you try so hard to set up your interpretations

 

without knowing the Word of God in its foundational truth.

 

Our Father in HEAVEN as different from my father on earth

 

– WAKE UP Joseph Singh Prince!”

 

@WordsofGodThe

 

“There are many false prophets nowadays,

 

but why do we pay more attention to Joseph Prince,

 

instead of all the rest of the false prophets?

 

It is because an ‘ordinary’ false prophet

 

only preaches against God’s words,

 

but a ‘false prophet of the false prophets’

 

helps to hide, protect, justify,

 

and speak for all the rest of the false prophets.

 

An ‘ordinary’ false prophet

 

does not have the skill or craft to hide

 

or resist the ‘voice of conviction from within’

 

or the sin conscience of lying

 

and speaking against God’s words.

 

However, Joseph Prince obviously has a very strong ‘calling’

 

to justify all kinds of sin conscience

 

so that there is now a ‘difficulty’ for most people

 

including the liars and false prophets to repent.

 

This also explains why Joseph Prince and false prophets

 

do not like to hear about the law of God,

 

especially the Ten Commandments or moral law;

 

however, they would unashamedly tell you

 

that they still meditate or believe in the ‘law’

 

(to prosper and make more money).

 

That’s why when Joseph Prince preaches on Psalms 1:1-2

 

to meditate on the law of God,

 

obviously, he is not thinking about the law of God

 

or the moral law of doing righteousness,

 

but the law of making more money

 

(with a seared conscience or corrupted conscience).

 

Of course, today, we have no more sin conscience

 

to offer sacrifice for sin according Hebrews 10:2,

 

but we still have sin conscience if we sin.

 

So, when Joseph Prince twists Hebrews 10:2

 

and preaches away all kinds of sin conscience,

 

his inner conscience is already seared.

 

Obviously, Joseph Prince is now a ‘good friend’

 

of most of the false prophets in the world.

 

It’s because when these false prophets cannot sleep at night

 

because of conviction of sin or guilt conscience

 

against their ‘filthy’ riches,

 

they would just switch on his messages

 

and console themselves with the ‘hope’

 

that God’s judgement will never come

 

before they are raptured.

 

So, Joseph Prince is not only a ‘friend of the sinners’;

 

he is a ‘friend of the false prophets’ too!”

 

Appendix 2

 

Verbatim Notes of George Ong’s

 

2-minute and 5-minute videos:

 

1 Timothy 4:16

 

16 Watch your life and doctrine closely.

 

Persevere in them, because if you do,

 

you will save both yourself and your hearers.

 

You will save yourself.

 

Hey, how come we can save ourselves?

 

Paul, are you teaching the right doctrine?

 

I thought we cannot save ourselves.

 

Paul says we can save ourselves.

 

Michael, how do we get Paul out of the tight corner?

 

He says you will save yourself.

 

I thought we have been taught that we cannot save ourselves.

 

I thought we have been taught that we cannot save ourselves,

 

how come Paul say you will save yourselves

 

and your hearers some more, you know.    

 

Ya, he says, it’s right.

 

That means, ya Lah, same thing back again.

 

We not only need justification

 

but the sanctification is mainly, remember on what we do.

 

So, if you do all these things,

 

you have a part in saving yourself.

 

But it’s not the whole truth.

 

You need God to save you, yes.

 

But you are also responsible.

 

Sanctification, your responsibility, you see.

 

Don’t push it back to God.

 

But Joseph Prince teaches the kind of Christianity

 

is very feel good.

 

Feel-good theology, Mah.

 

Everything is about Jesus.

 

Everything is about God.

 

You don’t have to do anything.

 

So, you got to watch your life and doctrine.

 

You get yourself into false doctrine, you’re in trouble.

 

Persevere, if you do, you will save.

 

So, Paul is a sanctification preacher.

 

Why we do not know?

 

Because he (Joseph Prince) didn’t preach all this.

 

His people are being bluffed by him, you see.

 

Paul, only preach (justification).

 

Righteousness of God (in Christ).

 

No, I do not play down on this,

 

I’m not making fun.

 

We need that but because that’s only half the gospel.

 

He never preach all this things.

 

So, his people are misled.     

 

Paul was warning Timothy

 

don’t fall into the temptation of riches

 

because if you do,

 

you can wander from the faith and be destroyed.

 

This is definitely eternal spiritual destruction.

 

So, do not get involved in riches,

 

if not, you will wander from the faith and be destroyed.

 

So, you, man of God.

 

Did Paul say,

 

“You man of God, Timothy, take it easy,

 

you can handle it?”

 

No, you man of God,

 

you better watch out,

 

you better take hold of the eternal life.

 

Why would Paul ask Timothy

 

to take hold of the eternal life

 

if he is once saved always saved?

 

No, he has a part not to fall into riches

 

so that he do not lose his eternal life.

 

Other translations NLT,

 

You man of God, hold tightly to the eternal life.

 

If we are once saved always saved,

 

once righteous, always righteous,

 

Paul would not say these words to Timothy.

 

You, man of God,

 

grabbing hold of the life that continues forever.

 

You are God’s man.

 

Hold tightly to the eternal life.

 

You, the man of God,

 

keep your grip on that life eternal

 

because he can lose it.

 

You, man of God,

 

keep holding on to the eternal life.

 

You, man of God and win eternal life for yourself.

 

Okay, sanctification preacher, Paul.         

 

These four “We”

 

are they refer to believers or unbelievers?

 

What about this “We” and “Us”

 

refer to believers or unbelievers?

 

It refers to believers.

 

You know why I ask the question.

 

I ask the question

 

because those who preach once saved always saved

 

cannot handle this sentence,

 

this phrase because if you are once saved always saved,

 

how can Christ disown you, you see.

 

So, they always twist it,

 

this is speaking to unbelievers.

 

You cannot. You cannot twist it.

 

I mean, it has to be consistent.

 

Here is Paul speaking.

 

Paul says, “We”, you know.

 

How can Paul be an unbeliever?

 

Paul says, “We”.

 

If we disown him, himself, Paul disowns Christ,

 

Christ will disown him.

 

Now, if we disown Him, He will disown us.

 

If we are faithless, He remains faithful.

 

Eh, how do we work that out?

 

If we disown Him, He will disown us,

 

then if you are faithless, He will remain faithful, how? 

 

Is there a contradiction?

 

There seems to be a contradiction, isn’t it?

 

What I think is this.

 

Of course, it goes without saying

 

that if you truly repentant,

 

God can handle it.

 

You can be the worst murderer.

 

You can be the worst gambler,

 

the worse Wah, Wah, Wah,

 

there is true repentance,

 

the proper teaching is God will embrace you, right?

 

Peter is an example.

 

Didn’t Peter deny Christ?

 

He denied Christ 3 times.

 

But there was true repentance.

 

You see, people always use this to attack my view.

 

No, of course, we know that.

 

Peter, true repentance,

 

Jesus will embrace him back, right?

 

But I don’t think it’s covered here.

 

Of course, we also know true repentance,

 

I don’t think; that’s my opinion.

 

While that is true, I don’t think this is covered here.

 

I think it probably refers to people like Judas Iscariot.

 

Why I say that

 

because If we disown Him, He will disown us.

 

If we are faithless, he remains faithful.

 

It cannot be, I don’t think so, you know why?

 

Because it will bring the whole passage into a contradiction.

 

One moment, say He will disown us,

 

then how can if you are faithless remains faithful.

 

You have to ask the question,

 

faithful to what?

 

Faithful to His own principle.

 

Faithful to Himself for He cannot disown Himself.

 

Because he has already stated

 

if he disowns Him, He will disown us.

 

If we are faithless, He remains faithful to the person?

 

No, no, no.

 

I think Faithful to His own principle

 

because He cannot disown Himself.

 

He already established the principle,

 

if we disown Him, He will disown us.    

 

So, that Peter principle,

 

I don’t think it is covered in this passage.

 

That’s what I think.

 

And that Paul and Jesus,

 

they are on the same page

 

because Paul is mouthing the words of Jesus.

 

If you don’t believe me, turn to Matthew,

 

somebody turn to Matthew 10:33.   

 

“Whoever disown me before others,

 

I will disown him before my Father in heaven.”

 

Yes, so isn’t it clear?

 

Paul is teaching the same thing as Jesus.

 

So, again, this is a sanctification passage.

 

You disown Him, you are out.       

 

2 Corinthians 13:5

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. 

 

Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you

 

—unless, of course, you fail the test?

 

You know what Joseph Prince teaches.

 

He teaches against Paul directly.

 

He said don’t examine yourself.

 

If you examine yourself, you are into works.

 

He said don’t examine yourself.

 

If you examine yourself, you are into works.

 

Ya, that’s what he teaches.

 

Paul says very clearly.

 

And you can fail the test, you know.

 

So, Paul is a sanctification preacher.

 

It’s not after you said the sinner’s prayer,

 

the deal is done.

 

No, you have to examine yourself.

 

Here is another text is very hard to argue

 

you are once saved always saved.

 

Because here it says a recent convert.

 

A recent convert is a convert.

 

Whether is a mature or immature or recent, it’s a convert.

 

I mean I had to take that he’s a Christian.

 

But this Christian, he can fall under pride

 

and then be condemned as the devil.

 

You know the context is that Paul is telling Timothy

 

in your selection of leaders, don’t select the freshies,

 

those who are new converts

 

because they are not ready,

 

they fall into pride; so that is the context.

 

So again, this is a sanctification text.

 

You can be a real convert,

 

you can fall under the same condemnation

 

because of pride.

 

Paul is a sanctification preacher.”

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