Main Title: Did Joseph Prince reply to George Ong whether Lawrence Lim’s sex with many women was committed as a Pastor at New Creation Church? Yes & No
Sub Title: Joseph Prince’s teaching on character is the greatest joke and unparalleled hypocrisy
– By Rev George Ong (Dated 15 Dec 2024)
My Opening Shot to Joseph Prince:
Hey Joe,
I did not reply to you
after you had preached on 24 Nov 2024,
knowing that was your last preaching,
before you went on your holiday.
So, I have deliberately delayed and waited
until today to reply,
knowing that you will likely be preaching
this coming Sunday
– 22 Dec 2024 (Christmas Service),
so, it will be something fresh for you to reply to me
regarding this article that I have written.
Hope you don’t disappoint.
In fact, you had better reply as your character is at stake.
If you read my article, and I know you would,
you would understand what I mean.
(Joseph Prince’s last preaching was 24 Nov 2024,
and he didn’t preach on 1 Dec, 8 Dec
and today, 15 Dec 2024.)
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5 Main Points of the Article:
1. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– sheer childish behaviour
– throwing baby tantrums against his chief critic
– lying that his critics are precious to him.
2. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– Rebelling and mocking the teachings
of the Lord Jesus, Apostle Paul and Apostle John
that believers can be cut off
because he deliberately distorts scriptures
by mocking the other half of the truth.
3. Joseph Prince’s Flawed character
– lying that it is a spiritual law of the Kingdom of God
that money will follow
if you do what you love or are passionate about.
4. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– dishonesty in the handling of scriptures
– mocking the scriptures
by deliberately changing the meaning of words
in God’s word.
5. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– no integrity and sheer hypocrisy
in the handling of scriptures
– accusing others of the same fault that he is guilty of.
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
In order to make sense of this article,
it is necessary for you to read my last article,
Main Title: Following Lawrence Lim who shared about his sexual sins in a sermon on 10 Nov 2024, 2 Sundays ago, Joseph Prince, in his sermon, 17 Nov 2024, last Sunday, arrogantly implied that no accountability is needed for the restoration, especially of the Pastor, who commits sexual sin, or any other sin by anyone
Sub Title: Joseph Prince slandered Paul when he said that when Paul knew that the Corinthians visited prostitutes, he did not confront them about these sins; on the contrary, Paul assured them of who they were in Christ
by clicking on the link below:
Did Joseph Prince reply to George Ong
about Lawrence Lim’s sexual sins?
Yes and no.
No, because Joseph Prince didn’t make it clear
when Lawrence Lim’s sexual sins were committed.
Since that is the case, there is a possibility
that Lawrence Lim had committed adultery
and slept with many women
as a Pastor at New Creation Church.
Unless Joseph Prince or Lawrence Lim makes it absolutely clear
in the future,
this would be a stain
in both Joseph Prince’s and Lawrence Lim’s character.
The stain is not about receiving forgiveness from God,
or about the adultery sins,
or even about how many women Lawrence Lim slept with,
as every sin can be forgiven by God,
but it is about Joseph Prince,
who allowed Lawrence Lim to continue as Pastor
without receiving a proper process of restoration.
So, it is in the interest of Joseph Prince and Lawrence Lim
to make this clear soonest possible,
whether Lawrence Lim has committed adultery
when he was pastoring,
or such suspicions will continue to linger
in the minds of many.
Yes, Joseph Prince did answer his chief critic.
But before I deal with Joseph Prince’s answer to his chief critic,
let me first surfaced what Joseph Prince said
on 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon;
“It’s more important that your child be in a place
that to develop his godly character.
If your child is developing a godly character in his life,
compliment him.
Tell him that’s what really matters.
Character is more important. Amen.
Honesty, integrity.
Teach your children those things.
But when you have the character of honesty, integrity
and all that, somebody will see you.
Character success is more important
than circumstance success, remember this.
And it’s character success many a times,
that gives birth to circumstantial success.
But not the other way around.
Circumstantial success doesn’t mean character success.
But when you have character success,
you can handle the circumstantial success.”
What?
Joseph Prince is talking about character?
This is the greatest joke
as I have already proven and exposed Joseph Prince
as a serial liar, serial double-talker,
serial slanderer and a serial hypocrite
in my many articles on this website.
Furthermore, just from what
Joseph Prince said in this sermon alone
on 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon,
I am going to prove that his character is flawed.
1. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– sheer childish behaviour
– throwing baby tantrums against his chief critic
– lying that his critics are precious to him.
Yes, Joseph Prince did reply to me.
on 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon.
Joseph Prince said;
“Okay, I’ll be honest with you.
My wife will be in the service anyway.
She will hear.
Can I tell you something that no one else knows.
Just between you and I.
But you don’t tell anybody else, okay.
Especially people who are getting ready,
very juicy.
I want to post this about Pastor Prince.
Get ready.
Please get ready.
I want to share something right now.”
Joseph Prince’s reply was to hit his chief critic back
with such baby tantrums.
Hey Joe, since you are already 61-years-old,
why are you exhibiting such childish behaviour
of getting back at your chief critic,
and abusing the holy pulpit in the process.
Grow up, Leh.
But you won’t believe this
– on another occasion Joseph Prince said something
that seemed so touching (seemed only, ah) to his critics;
“Even the one that criticise you,
you know the people that criticise me and all that,
you know how I see them?
Precious in the heart of my Lord Jesus.”
Wah, so touching!
Joseph Prince said he sees his critics
the way Jesus sees them, you know.
True or not?
Keh Eh Lah (Bluff one Lah).
Not enough,
let me show you more of such baby tantrums
thrown at his chief critic;
“For example, the one that is writing against me,
if you find that your prayers is not working
in any area or whatever it is,
maybe God wants you to come to me
to pray for you.
In that way you have to humble yourself.”
“In conclusion, in conclusion, in conclusion,
and you say, wah, this guy, ah.
Really not like the Apostle Paul, you know.
Now you see for yourself.
That’s why I preached this.
Wah, the guy is writing down a lot, you know, this one.
Wah, the guy is writing down a lot, you know, this one.”
See, see, see, so childish.
So, what Joseph Prince said
that his critics are precious in his eyes
the same way the Lord Jesus sees them
are all a bluff – it’s all for show.
Joseph Prince can easily win the Grammy Awards
as the best actor.
If Joseph Prince really sees them as precious,
why would he hit them back by making fun of them?
But let me reveal something deeper about Joseph Prince.
Behind his childish behaviour is his pride
– he is too proud to take criticisms lying down
and he has to hit back in one way or another.
Hey Joe, please make up your mind, Leh.
One moment,
you said your critics are precious in your eyes.
The next moment,
you make fun of him.
Of course, you are not a schizophrenic;
you are just a fraud in your character.
Joseph Prince is so vindictive
that he sure knows how to rub salt into this critic’s wounds
by getting his congregation
to participate in the mocking and fun-making exercise
– through their scornful and gleeful laughter.
Friends, this is the real Joseph Prince,
the sort of super-grace teacher,
that I’m unveiling for you.
But why should Joseph Prince give his chief critic
such a high profile by highlighting him frequently
and again, on 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon?
By now, you ought to know the answer.
The chief critic has posed such a serious threat
to Joseph Prince and his heresies
that Prince must now take him on in the open,
and even at the expense of abusing the pulpit
to launch his attack,
and even at the expense of making his chief critic more popular
because of his frequent mentioning.
Hey, by the way, Joe,
your making fun of me has zero effect on me, Lah.
I am so used to people making fun of me
because I even made fun of myself when I preach.
I am totally at home with self-deprecating jokes.
2. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– Rebelling and mocking
(in the contemptuous manner that he preached)
the teachings of the Lord Jesus, Apostle Paul and Apostle John
that believers can be cut off
because he deliberately distorts scriptures
by mocking the other half of the truth.
On 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“So, what do you need to do?
Defilement sets in, which is the dirty feet.
Our walk in this life becomes dirty.
It gets defiled.
What do you do?
Cut off that foot.
No, no. Relax, relax,
brother, relax, relax.
Yo, cut off that.
All this cutting off business,
all that cut off business,
listen carefully, relax, okay.
Don’t cut off here,
cut off there.
Cut off everywhere.
Okay, relax. Okay.”
Of course, Father God and the Lord Jesus will not cut us off
for any and every sin that we commit.
They are more gracious and merciful than we realise.
But not only did Joseph Prince
not present the other half of the truth
that we can be cut off,
as taught directly by the Apostle Paul, Apostle John
and the Lord Jesus Himself,
he mocks it.
Imagine, Joseph Prince has the unholy dare
to rebel against and mock the direct teachings of the 2 Apostles
and the Lord Jesus Himself, who is God.
Be warned that Father God and the Lord Jesus
can also cut us off
if we fail to produce fruit (Jn 15:1-6; Lk 13:7-9; Matt 7:19)
and if take God’s kindness for granted (Rom 11:21-22):
John 15:1-2,6 NIV
1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.” 6 “If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned”
Luke 13:7-9 NIV
7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’ 8 “‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it. 9 If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’”
Matthew 7:19 NIV
19 “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire”
Jesus said it clearly that those
who don’t bear fruit (or show works)
will be cut off from the Lord by His Father
and thrown into the fire and burned (Jn 15:2,6, Matt 7:19).
This is hardly a picture of a Christian
losing rewards in heaven,
but losing his salvation:
John 15:1-3, 6 NIV
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
Jesus made these statements
not to unbelievers but His disciples;
He addressed those who are “already clean.” (V3).
Because they are already clean,
the branches are His disciples or Christians.
It is impossible that Jesus is talking about a person
who was never saved to begin with
because the branch was once on the vine.
A person who was never saved
was never on the vine in the first place.
A branch on the vine is a Christian in Christ.
Yet, again and again,
Jesus makes it crystal clear
that those who are already clean (already saved)
must remain (conditional) in Him and bear fruit,
or they will be cut off.
In a teaching session, George Ong said;
Please see the verbatim notes in the Appendix.
Paul taught that believers in the New Covenant
are no more secure than the Jews under the Old
because the position of the Gentiles
was conditional as theirs was
– provided that ‘you continue in his kindness.
Otherwise you also will be cut off’ (V 22):
Romans 11:21-22 NIV
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. 22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
If God did not spare the natural branches (Jews)
he will not spare you either (Gentiles) (V21).
To be cut off means that
we will forfeit our eternal inheritance in Christ.
Those who are ‘cut off’
cannot be a reference to those who were never saved
because those who were never saved
never became attached.
Those who were ‘cut off’ were once attached.
A person cannot be attached to the olive tree
unless he was once in Christ.
In a teaching session, George Ong said;
Please see the verbatim notes in the Appendix.
In summary, I have proven to you
that Joseph Prince has indeed mocked
(in the contemptuous manner that he preached)
the teachings of the Lord Jesus, Apostle Paul and Apostle John
that believers can be cut off
because he deliberately distorts scriptures
by mocking the other half of the truth.
3. Joseph Prince’s flawed character
– lying that it is a spiritual law of the Kingdom of God
that money will follow
if you do what you love or are passionate about.
On 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“I tell you this.
It’s like a spiritual law of the Kingdom of God.
When you do what you are passionate about.
If you do what you love,
the money will follow, Amen.
But when you do what you love,
even though for a while,
you might not seem
that you are getting what you want to get,
the money will follow.”
Hey Joe, you said that when you do something you love
and are passionate about,
the money will follow.
Can you quote the chapter and verse
in the New Testament scriptures of where you got that from?
On the contrary, my New Testament scriptures
(I don’t know about yours)
tell me that if we really do what we love
and are passionate about,
we may lose many things, including our lives.
Do you agree (of course, you must agree)
that the Apostle Paul loves and is passionate about Jesus?
But what happened to him?
Did he become a billionaire?
No, he lost many things, including his life.
What about Apostle Peter?
Did he become the CEO of a Fishermen’s Conglomerate?
No, he too lost many things, including his life.
What about the rest of the disciples?
Did they love Jesus and are passionate about Him?
You bet!
Did they accumulate lots of money?
No, they were martyred (except John) for the sake of Christ.
I could go on and on…
Hey Joe, this only shows that your Prosperity Gospel
that once we do what we love and are passionate about
the money will follow
is a scam.
4. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– dishonesty in the handling of scriptures
– mocking the scriptures
by deliberately changing the meaning of words
in God’s word.
On 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon,
Joseph Prince said:
“Can allow it to reprove you,
to correct you
and to instruct you in righteousness.
Righteousness is not right doing.
In the New Testament,
it’s right position.
You are the righteousness of God in Christ.”
Joseph Prince has dishonestly changed the meaning of
“in righteousness”,
2 Timothy 3:16 NKJV
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
from
“doing right” or “living right”
to
“You are the righteousness of God in Christ”,
or, our “right position”.
Every Bible scholar will take
“in righteousness” in 2 Timothy 3:16
to mean “doing right or “right living”;
and not referring to our righteous position.
Please see the views
of 2 Bible Scholars and 14 Bible Translations.
In ‘Reading Timothy and Titus with John Stott,’
John Stott wrote (2 Tim 3:16):
“Paul goes on to show that the profit of Scripture
relates to both core beliefs
and conduct.
As for core beliefs,
Scripture is profitable for “teaching” and “rebuking.”
As for conduct,
it is profitable for “correcting”
and “training in righteousness.”
In our own lives and in our teaching ministry,
do we hope to overcome error and grow in truth,
to overcome evil and grow in holiness?
Then it is to Scripture that we must primarily turn,
for Scripture is “useful” for these things.”
In “BE FAITHFUL It’s always Too soon to Quit, NT commentary,
1 & 2 Timonthy, Titus, Philemon
Warren W. Wiersbe wrote (2 Tim 3:16):
“The Scriptures are profitable (v. 16b).
They are profitable for doctrine (what is right),
for reproof (what is not right),
for correction (how to get right),
and for instruction in righteousness (how to stay right).
A Christian who studies the Bible
and applies what he learns
will grow in holiness
and avoid many pitfalls in this world.”
14 Bible Translations contradicted Joseph Prince’s position
that the last phrase in 2 Timothy 3:16
has to do with “right position”
or “you are the righteousness of God in Christ.”
Rather, it has to do with “right living” or “right doing.”
2 Timothy 3:16 NIRV
16 God has breathed life into all Scripture. It is useful for teaching us what is true. It is useful for correcting our mistakes. It is useful for making our lives whole again. It is useful for training us to do what is right.
2 Timothy 3:16 NLT
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
2 Timothy 3:16 WE
16 All that is written in the holy writings comes from the Spirit of God. The holy writings are good for these things: to teach people, to show them when they are wrong, to make them see what is right, to teach them to do what is right.
2 Timothy 3:16 AMP
16 All Scripture is God-breathed [given by divine inspiration] and is profitable for instruction, for conviction [of sin], for correction [of error and restoration to obedience], for training in righteousness [learning to live in conformity to God’s will, both publicly and privately – behaving honorably with personal integrity and moral courage];
2 Timothy 3:16 CEB
16 Every scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for showing mistakes, for correcting, and for training character,
2 Timothy 3:16 CEB
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is valuable for teaching the truth, convicting of sin, correcting faults and training in right living;
2 Timothy 3:16 CEV
16 Everything in the Scriptures is God’s Word. All of it is useful for teaching and helping people and for correcting them and showing them how to live.
2 Timothy 3:16 ERV
16 All Scripture is given by God. And all Scripture is useful for teaching and for showing people what is wrong in their lives. It is useful for correcting faults and teaching the right way to live.
2 Timothy 3:16 EASY
16 Everything that is written in the Bible comes from God’s Spirit. It helps us in many ways. The Bible teaches us what is true. It warns us when we are doing wrong things. It shows us what is right. It teaches us how to live good lives.
2 Timothy 3:16 EXB
16 All Scripture is ·inspired by God [breathed out by God; L God-breathed] and is useful for teaching, for ·showing people what is wrong in their lives [refuting error; rebuking], for correcting faults, and for teaching how to live right [training in righteousness].
2 Timothy 3:16 GNT
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful[a] for teaching the truth, rebuking error, correcting faults, and giving instruction for right living,
2 Timothy 3:16 ICB
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching and for showing people what is wrong in their lives. It is useful for correcting faults and teaching how to live right.
2 Timothy 3:16 TLB
16 The whole Bible was given to us by inspiration from God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives; it straightens us out and helps us do what is right.
2 Timothy 3:16 NCV
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for showing people what is wrong in their lives, for correcting faults, and for teaching how to live right.
Why is Joseph Prince twisting 2 Timothy 3:16?
It is because of his grace doctrine
– that the core of Christianity
is about right believing
rather than right living.
So, he has to twist every single verse in the scriptures
to fit his doctrine.
That’s how evil Joseph Prince is
– even the holy word of God
is not spared in his efforts
to protect and promote his false grace doctrine.
5. Joseph Prince’s Flawed Character
– no integrity and sheer hypocrisy in the handling of scriptures
– accusing others of the same fault that he is guilty of.
On 24 Nov 2024, his most recent sermon,
Joseph Prince said;
“So, the Bible says, having therefore,
listen carefully, do not misquote this verse.
It says having therefore
these promises dearly beloved brethren,
let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh
in the Spirit (2 Cor 7:1).
Notice, let us cleanse ourselves from all;
having therefore these promises and the word of God,
where do you find the promises
– the word of God.
Don’t just say let us cleanse ourselves.
A lot of people say
if you are the righteousness of God,
why did Paul say in Corinthians, let us cleanse ourselves,
they jump the gun.
You got to quote the entire thing.
It says it’s having therefore
these promises beloved brethren,
let us cleanse ourselves (2 Cor 7:1).
We cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh,
the defilement, it attaches itself to us.
You are still the righteousness of God in Christ.
God will never see you otherwise.
But these defilements,
how do you cleanse yourself?
Having therefore these promises,
let us cleanse ourselves.
You use the word of God.”
Joseph Prince said we must not misquote the verse,
but we must quote the entire thing
– meaning the whole verse in 2 Corinthians 7:1:
2 Corinthians 7:1 NKJV
Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
2 Corinthians 7:1 NLT
Because we have these promises, dear friends, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that can defile our body or spirit. And let us work toward complete holiness because we fear God.
Yet, Joseph Prince himself didn’t quote the entire verse,
and has deliberately missed quoting
the second part of the verse,
“And let us work toward complete holiness
because we fear God,”
which will give a different twist
to our understanding of the verse.
Again, why is Joseph Prince so bent on twisting God’s word?
This is because Joseph Prince teaches against
holiness and fearing God.
That’s why he ‘deletes’ these 4 words:
“Complete holiness” and “fear God”
from the verse by not mentioning them.
Now you know why Joseph Prince
dared not show you the verse
on the screen
as those more discerning ones
will know how dishonest he is.
Yet, again, Joseph Prince has done the evil thing
by twisting another scripture in God’s holy word
to fit his grace doctrine.
Furthermore, along with Paul’s strong holiness emphasis
and warning against behavioural sins of the Corinthians,
he further said:
2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1 NLT
14 Don’t team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness? 15 What harmony can there be between Christ and the devil? How can a believer be a partner with an unbeliever? 16 And what union can there be between God’s temple and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God said:
“I will live in them
and walk among them.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
17 Therefore, come out from among unbelievers,
and separate yourselves from them, says the Lord.
Don’t touch their filthy things,
and I will welcome you.
18 And I will be your Father,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”
1 Because we have these promises, dear friends, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that can defile our body or spirit. And let us work toward complete holiness because we fear God.
Paul was calling the Corinthians
to work towards complete holiness
because they fear God;
cleansing themselves from everything
that defiles the body or spirit.
That’s clear holiness teaching
and teaching against unholy living
to address against behavioural sins
– pure and simple!
Yet, Joseph Prince ‘deleted’ this emphasis
by not mentioning it
because it contradicts his grace doctrine.
In ‘Be Encouraged, 2 Corinthians’,
Warren W. Wiersbe wrote (2 Cor 7:1):
“But cleansing ourselves is only half of the responsibility;
we must also be “perfecting holiness in the fear of God” (2 Cor. 7:1).
This is a constant process
as we grow in grace and knowledge (2 Peter 3:18).
It is important to be balanced.
The Pharisees were keen on putting away sin,
but they neglected to perfect holiness.
But it is foolish to try to perfect holiness
if there is known sin in our lives.”
Warren Wiersbe’s stress that
“… we must also be “perfecting holiness
in the fear of God” (2 Cor. 7:1),
is what Joseph Prince deliberately left out
because his grace doctrine
is against holiness and fearing God.
In conclusion, I believed I have proven
that Joseph Prince’s character is marred.
But the worst character flaw is his treachery
to twist and undo God’s holy word
to fit his false grace doctrine.
If Joseph Prince dares to do that to God’s word,
how can he be a true teacher of God’s word,
and how can he not be a heretic?
Rev George Ong
Appendix
Please see the verbatim notes
of George Ong’s 20-second video:
“Some people may say Jesus is speaking to unbelievers.
No, no.
Jesus is speaking to His believers who are already clean.
So, He’s speaking to believers;
not speaking to unbelievers.
It’s His disciples.
Ya, I know you are my disciples.
If you remain, you are okay.
If you don’t remain, you will be cut off.
Please see the verbatim notes
of George Ong’s 1-minute video:
“Romans 11:22.
Therefore, consider the kindness and sternness of God:
Sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you.
Now, Joseph Prince teach half-truth.
God is only kind.
But Paul never teach half-truth.
He says both stern and kind.
I mean it’s clear.
He can be stern to us.
Provided that you continue in His kindness.
Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
In other words, we have an important part to play.
We must continue in God’s kindness,
Otherwise, we’ll be cut off.
He (Paul) is trying to say
what happen to the Old Covenant people
will happen to us if we don’t continue.
Again, Paul is a sanctification preacher.
What you do or what you don’t do
can affect your salvation.
Those who are ‘cut off’ cannot be a reference
to those who were never saved.
Then those who want to explain
they were cut off because they were never saved,
you know what I mean,
always come up with this.
Those who are ‘cut off’
cannot be a reference to those who were never saved
because those who were never saved
never became attached.
Those who were ‘cut off’ were once attached.
A person cannot be attached to the olive tree
unless he was once in Christ.”