Part 1: Joseph Prince preaches against Jesus & Paul about God’s grace on the poor to give; that only the rich can give while he looks down on the poor to give
Part 2: Paul Tan, an Ex New Creation Church member for 11 years (2003-2007 & 2014-2020) said those in New Creation Church are spellbound to Joseph Prince because they are under his spiritual witchcraft
Watch the Conversation between Paul Tan & Peter Kho (Dated 6 May 2025)
(This article was also sent to Rev Dr Ngoei Foong Nghian, General Secretary, National Council of Churches of Singapore (NCCS) office, and for the attention of the Executive Committee Members.)
How Paul Tan and I (George Ong) met:
Recently, I wrote in the YouTube comments,
appealing for Ex New Creation Members to contact me.
Thankfully, one of them, Paul Tan, responded.
We met face-to-face, and hence,
this conversation between Paul Tan and Peter kho.
I honour Paul Tan for his courage to appear in person
to speak against Joseph Prince and his heresies.
May more Ex New Creation Church members
follow his courageous example to do the same.
Paul Tan told me that from 2020 to 2025,
for 5 consecutive years,
he has been following
almost every release of my videos/articles on my website
religiously and diligently.
This encourages me,
knowing that my labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Part 1: Joseph Prince preaches against Jesus & Paul about God’s grace on the poor to give – that only the rich can give while he looks down on the poor to give
In the sermon on 20 Apr 2025, Joseph Prince said:
“For us riches to be a blessing.
Blessed to be a blessing.
Poor people cannot help poor people.
Poor people cannot
but think of their poverty all the time.”
While Joseph Prince teaches
that the rich can be empowered to give,
which we don’t disagree,
what’s rather ungracious
(I thought he is supposed to be a grace teacher)
and hurting to the poor
is that he went on to say
“Poor people cannot help poor people.
Poor people cannot
but think of their poverty all the time.”
What Joseph Prince said went head-on against
what the Apostle Paul, who uses the poor Macedonians,
and the Lord Jesus, who uses the poor widow
to teach about giving in the scriptures.
Most of all, Joseph Prince,
being the so-called super-grace teacher
doesn’t even understand the grace of God.
This is because the Apostle Paul teaches
that it was nothing but the grace of God in 2 Corinthians 8:1
that enabled the extremely poor Macedonian churches
to give generously
to the needs of other churches in 2 Corinthians 8:1-5:
2 Corinthians 8:1-5 NIV
1 And now, brothers and sisters, we want you to know about the grace that God has given the Macedonian churches. 2 In the midst of a very severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity. 3 For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own, 4 they urgently pleaded with us for the privilege of sharing in this service to the Lord’s people. 5 And they exceeded our expectations: They gave themselves first of all to the Lord, and then by the will of God also to us.
It seems that Joseph Prince is so ignorant,
or he pretends not to know
that the Macedonian churches are New Covenant churches,
and they weren’t wealthy at all.
In fact, they were not just poor churches,
but extremely poor (2 Cor 8:2).
If Joseph Prince were Paul,
and to be true to his Prosperity Gospel Theology,
he would have lectured them:
“Hey, Macedonians, according to my Prosperity Gospel teaching, you ought to be very rich as Abraham was.
What happened? Obviously, you do not have enough faith. That’s why you are still living in poverty.
Don’t you know that if you live in poverty, my Prosperity Gospel doctrine says you are under a curse?
Besides, being poor, how can you give to others? You must be rich, and have more than enough for yourselves, before you can give to others and bless them.
You need to get out of poverty as you are a poor testimony of the Christian faith. You are a poor example to the churches as every church ought to be very rich as Abraham was.
When people see you suffering from poverty, who would want to be a Christian?”
Did Paul say all that rubbish to the Macedonian Christians?
Absolutely not!
Paul said the opposite.
He praised them for their sacrificial giving.
He held them up as a model of giving for every church.
Paul praised the Macedonian believers
that though they were extremely poor,
they were enormously generous in their giving
as they gave out of extreme poverty.
Many Macedonian Christians had probably lost their jobs
because they were persecuted for their faith.
They had gone through a severe trial.
They were extremely poor.
And yet, it was out of their extreme poverty
and out of the empowering grace of God
that they gave magnanimously.
Paul, through the excellent example of the Macedonians,
has debunked Joseph Prince’s constant refrain and endless repetition
(you’ve got to believe me as I listened to every of Joseph Prince’s sermons every Sunday)
that one has to be rich,
or one has to have more than enough,
in order to give to support the preaching of the gospel
and to bless the poor.
Joseph Prince constantly harps on this line
in his sermons and books
that if you are not blessed with riches,
how could you bless others through your giving?
Joseph Prince keeps pounding on this argument
that if you are as poor as a church mouse,
and don’t even have enough for yourselves,
how could God use you to give to others?
The tune that Joseph Prince has constantly been singing
is that the richer you are,
the more you could give to bless others.
Joseph Prince’s teachings seem all so logical.
But you know something
– the New Testament scriptures
seldom explicitly (as far as I know)
uses the rich to exhort us to excel or be generous in our giving
(except for 1 Timothy 6:17-19)
However, the New Testament uses the poor
to showcase what excelling in giving
and what being generous in our giving really is.
Paul didn’t use the rich but the extremely poor Macedonians
to encourage the (richer) Corinthians and all of us
to excel in our giving:
2 Corinthians 8:4 NLT
4 They begged us again and again for the privilege of sharing in the gift for the believers in Jerusalem.
Out of 59 Translations that I have checked
regarding 2 Corinthians 8:4,
41 used the word ‘begged’ or ‘begging’:
AMP, AMPC, CSB, CEB, CJB, CEV, DARBY, DLNT, DRA, ERV, ESV, ESVUK, EXB, GW, GNT, HCSB, ICB, ISV, PHILLIPS, TLB, MEV, MOUNCE, NOG, NABRE, NASB, NCV, NET, NIRV, NLT, NRSV, NRSVA, NRSVACE, NTE, OJB, TPT, RSV, RSVCE, TLV, VOICE, WEB, WE.
What is astounding is that
these extremely poor Macedonian Christians
begged to give.
The word ‘beg’, is usually used by those who receive.
We call a person a beggar because he begs to receive.
Instead of begging to receive, which they could have done,
Paul said these extremely poor Macedonian believers
“begged” to give
“again and again” (2 Cor 8:4 NLT).
This is unheard of!
This is extraordinary Christianity!
My heart was so moved by what the Macedonian church did.
Can you see what the grace of God can do
to move these extremely poor Macedonian Christians
to beg to give?
When the extremely poor Macedonian Christians,
which is equivalent to today’s Third World
begged to give,
the irony is that some believers in the First World
often have to be coaxed and persuaded to give;
and despite that,
they are still reluctant to give.
God, have mercy on us!
In the same way, Christ Jesus Himself used a poor widow,
not the rich as Joseph Prince have always pushed for,
who gave her two coins, which is all that she had
to teach us about generous giving (Mk 12:41-44):
Mark 12:41-44 NIV
41 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents. 43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything – all she had to live on.”
The poor widow went beyond what was expected
and gave all that she had.
Jesus remarked that the poor widow
gave more than all the rich people put together
because she gave
“out of her poverty”
and
“all she had to live on” (Mk 12:43-44).
Like Paul, the first crucial lesson that Jesus wants us to learn
is that it is not only the rich who can give,
but the poor can give as well,
and their giving is better than the rich
as they can give ‘much more’ (in the eyes of Jesus)
than what the rich give.
The second lesson is that when it comes to the crunch,
it is not how much one gives
(“Many rich people threw in large amounts” and “gave out of their wealth” Mark 12:41b, 44).
Rather, it’s how much one sacrifices
(“but she, out of her poverty, put in everything – all she had to live on” Mark 12:44).
Hence, the excellence of giving
is not how much one puts in the offering bag;
it is how little one keeps in his wallet
in comparison to how much one has given.
The examples of both the poor widow
and the extremely poor Macedonian Christians
have unveiled the lie of Joseph Prince
in his Prosperity Gospel Theology
that one has to be rich and even better, richer,
before one can give to the preaching of the gospel
and His kingdom’s sake.
This is one deceptive way Joseph Prince tries to justify
why his Prosperity Gospel is biblical
and why every New Covenant believer
is to be very wealthy as Abraham was,
because it is their covenantal right.
To reiterate, as I have pointed out,
the examples that Jesus and Paul used
to illustrate generous and sacrificial giving
are not the rich but the poor
– the widow who gave out of her poverty and her all – her 2 coins,
and the Macedonian Christians who gave out of their extreme poverty.
So, if Joseph Prince claims to be Christ-centred
and preaching the real Jesus of the Bible,
and holds up Paul as his mentor in his grace theology,
why is he not following the examples of Jesus and Paul
by teaching that the poor can give sacrificially and generously,
and not just the rich?
The reason is simple as this would expose
the falsity of Joseph Prince’s Prosperity Gospel doctrine
that every believer has to be very rich as Abraham was,
and no believer must ever be poor as a church mouse.
What’s most crucial is that Joseph Prince himself
who is a so-called grace teacher
does not really comprehend
the full wonders of the grace of God.
This is because it was indeed the grace of God
that moves and empowers the poor Macedonian churches
and the poor widow
to give.
Without the grace of God,
both the poor widow and the Macedonian Christians
wouldn’t have been able to.
In fact, it is impossible for them to give,
when they themselves are living in poverty.
It was nothing but the grace of God
that empowers them to give sacrificially.
Ask yourself
– what would help most
to magnify the excellent and bountiful grace of God?
It is not when the rich give out of their abundance,
or out of their excess,
or when they have more than enough,
that Joseph Prince has always been teaching,
but it is when the poor give in rich generosity
despite their extreme poverty,
like the poor widow and the Macedonian Christians did.
When the weak and the most unlikely people
who are living in extreme poverty,
respond to the challenge of sacrificial giving,
God’s matchless grace is magnified many times more.
Only the grace of God could have brought about
such a magnificent giving by the poor widow
and the Macedonian churches
that defies human imagination and possibilities:
2 Corinthians 8:1-5 NIV
1And now, brothers and sisters, we want you to know about the grace that God has given the Macedonian churches. 2 In the midst of a very severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity. 3 For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own, 4 they urgently pleaded with us for the privilege of sharing in this service to the Lord’s people. 5 And they exceeded our expectations: They gave themselves first of all to the Lord, and then by the will of God also to us.
Perhaps, we should send Joseph Prince back to the school of grace
to learn and relearn
regarding his inadequate and poor understanding
of the true grace of God.
Joseph Prince obviously do not understand
that the ways of God
are often to use the weak and the poor
to confound the wise and the rich.
Finally, why would Joseph Prince want to give people the idea
that they should first get rich
before they can be a generous giver;
and only the rich, who have more than enough, can give
while the poor can’t?
It is clearly to justify his own riches.
How much personal wealth Prince has gained
from his many years of preaching the false gospel
is what everyone is dying to know.
What’s reprehensible is that many Prosperity Gospel preachers
are no more than using this as a mere and convenient excuse
to be rich themselves
and to justify their extravagant and luxurious lifestyle.
Part 2: Paul Tan, an Ex New Creation Church member for 11 years (2003-2007 & 2014-2020) said those in New Creation Church are spellbound to Joseph Prince because they are under his spiritual witchcraft
Excerpts of what Paul Tan said:
Excerpt No 1: Paul Tan & Rev George Ong
Peter Kho:
How do you get into contact with Rev George Ong?
Paul Tan:
Similar to Brother Daniel Tay,
I started to search for proof online
that Joseph Prince is a false prophet,
the wolf in sheep’s clothing,
and I got plenty of such information
from Rev George’s website.
And what is most prominent is Rev George Ong’s website
in which I was horrified to discover
a lot of firsthand account of how people were duped
into attending New Creation Church.
And subsequently, I started to tuned in to his (video) clips.
I did this partly is because I wanted to know all about
the counter arguments against Pseudo-grace.
Because his (Rev George Ong) is the only website
that consistently updates on what Joseph Prince is preaching
in the week-to-week basis.
So, I find it very useful.
Joseph Prince has never truly answered
to what Rev George Ong has actually put up in his website.
So, it shows that he (Joseph Prince) does not have the answer
to all the overwhelming proof in Rev George’s website.
He doesn’t have a counter argument against Rev George.
Excerpt No 2: Those who choose to stay faithful to Joseph Prince’s False Gospel are Hellbound.
Peter Kho:
At 2020, what finally got you off…
gave you the courage to just leave for good?
Paul Tan:
I would say that it was the demise of my late mum.
My mum passed away in June 2020.
So, it set me thinking
that if I continue to stay in New Creation Church,
I will be bound for hell-fire
because at the back of my mind,
I had always doubted the gospel
that he (Joseph Prince) preaches there.
… So, my impassioned plea
to those who are still staying in New Creation Church
is that Joseph Prince
is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a false prophet;
and to get out of New Creation Church as soon as they can.
And my own conviction is that those who receive the gospel
from him are actually destined to hell instead.
Excerpt No 3: People in New Creation Church are spellbound to Joseph Prince because they are under his spiritual witchcraft.
From my own experience,
I feel that they may have been spellbound to Joseph Prince
under some form of witchcraft…
So, I strongly believe these people
who keep going to New Creation Church,
they are probably spellbound to Joseph Prince.
And when I try to minister to them,
it’s like as though there’s a veil covering their eyes,
and they would just turn very aggressive,
and be totally closed to your suggestion
that Joseph Prince might be preaching something
that’s completely out of sync with the Bible.
So, what happened was that I had an exchange with a brother.
So, when I actually mentioned Pseudo-grace
that Joseph Prince is preaching,
he just blocked me off without much discussion….
Peter Kho:
So, you do believe that this is more like, on a spiritual level,
there’s some demonic, principalities or evil within that church
that’s controlling and stopping people from coming out.
Paul Tan: Yes.
… They are spellbound by Joseph Prince
in that they seem to have this uncanny attraction to him.
I’ve got a group of churchgoers in my first stay (in New Creation Church)
that they couldn’t stop talking about Joseph Prince.
When they start a conversation,
they would just talk about Joseph Prince.
The name, Joseph Prince would just pop out.
So we can’t have a meaningful conversation
even though I told them to stop.
They cannot help but want to talk about Joseph Prince.
This is how deep
he (Joseph Prince) has actually sunk into the impression
of this people there,
the people who are attending his church.
Rev George Ong